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1969 D LMC Die Deterioration?

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 Posted 09/19/2019  11:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm sure this has an official term the CCF could help me with. It has a great look and feel but any added value?

Thanks!



1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 09/19/2019  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oops, wanted this in the error and variety sub.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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What are you seeing as an error or variety? I am seeing a normal coin worth one cent or copper melt value (when it becomes legal)
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John1, I'll try posting different angles later. It has thicker relief especially on reverse. On obverse rim below date is an indication of something off too.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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oops, wanted this in the error and variety sub.
Fixed.
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What's your question exactly about? Is it the thick and fat letters, on the reverse? Please elaborate.
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Ok, hopefully this can clear up my question. The entire reverse seems bolder, thicker, and glossy. The comparison photo includes a 1966, 1972, and the coin in question. This coin was in well circulated bag of pennies but seems to have special armor. Obviously a different look but I'm not sure why. Thanks for the help.


1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
1969-D--LMC-Die-Deterioration?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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It was possibly a first strike, or EDS before the die and details got worn and polished.
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Thanks Eyes4Error, That makes sense.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Looks like a Very Late Die State coin to me with heavy Die Deterioration. See my tutorial on Die Deterioration, in my signature box below.
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Sorry... I'd listen to EV.

I guess I gave you the wrong advice.

Made sense to me of why one coin has a clear and deep design, while the others seem worn and seem to not have the depth. Guess I got some more learning to do
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Thanks EV, that explains the ridge wear and the deep look but I'm not understanding how those deteriorated dies appear rough and textured while this coin is very smooth.

"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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CoinHI,
When comparing coins, you have to use the same date-mint-and grade. Designs change sometimes and you need to compare apples to apples,not apples to oranges.
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