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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe not the perfect place for putting up a silver round, but I think this is the best place to find the people who will know what happened to it. My guess is an off-center die cap with brockage. But even if that's correct, to get the brockage on the reverse, which is incuse and mirrored obverse design, would this not have had to have struck a fully struck round with the obverse up to put that brockage on this coin? Need a little help understanding this one. Either way I bought it off ebay for $30 shipped as that seemed like a lot of error for the price. Walking Liberty 1/10 Oz. silver round - off-center die cap?       *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Note the reverse. It looks like it was struck on top another round. So the first round may not have moved out of the chamber and this round was struck on top of the other one. Maybe an off center (unknown term)? You might check with Mike Diamond for the correct term.
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Pillar of the Community
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Really cool! Amazing coin!
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Pillar of the Community
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I was asked to weigh in. This seems simply to be a strongly-cupped, off-center strike with a first-strike brockage of the obverse design on the reverse face. The brockage-maker was presumably a normal round.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Awesome error coin purchase tropicalbats!
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I guess I figured that the full brockage that went up the curvature meant the coin had been struck a couple of times as a die cap to get it there (see the LIB which shows no distortion). My understanding was that a die cap expanded the design over multiple strikes, but a single strike would keep the brockage on a mostly level plane.
Love the error coins, but still a novice at figuring them out.
Thanks Mike for the help with this one!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Mike are you sure first strike brockage? Early strike yes, but the design does seem to have undergone some enlargement and distortion.
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Pillar of the Community
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I guess I am still having trouble envisioning this. How does a fully struck round end up in the chamber and then this thing get struck onto it creating the brockage? Not trying to make this more than it is, but still can't figure out how it was made.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have no reason to think this isn't a first strike brockage. A round stayed in the striking chamber after it was struck and a second planchet was fed in on top of it in an off-center position. Then both were struck out-of-collar. As the bottom coin expanded, the unstruck portion of the top coin curled upward toward the hammer die. This radial expansion carried the brockage outward and slightly upward along the outside of the cupped portion of the coin. This is typical of such errors.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Very interesting.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Mike, really appreciate your help with this one.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Tropicalbats, if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for this error coin?
Errers and Varietys.
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