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1957 D Penny With Die Break In "B" And Extra 5?

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 Posted 10/03/2019  10:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JTAC to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I see a die break filling the B in LIBERTY, and it looks to be at least a die break as well on the 5 with a possible shadow 5 offset. Is it an extra 5?

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 Posted 10/03/2019  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The issue with the "B" we call it a broken post, and the date appears to have a small "struck through" error, where a small piece of copper foil was struck onto the coin.
Die chips/broken post and other die issuses are very common for 50 era cent...they used the heck out of the dies before retireing them...good luck on future finds, have fun
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 Posted 10/04/2019  04:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A broken post for sure, but perhaps a small lamination rather than struck through foil on the date?
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 Posted 10/04/2019  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I lean toward Spence's theory.
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 Posted 10/04/2019  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Lamination error. It's not straight enough. I like Greasy Fingers's theory better.
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 Posted 10/04/2019  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fair enough. My thinking is that struck through copper foil would be much less prevalent in the days when cents were copper (as opposed to now, when they are copper plated). But that is just a working theory and I'd invite others to correct me if it is wrong.
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Thank you to all who contribute to this board. I've already learned from you all in just the couple of coins I've posted.
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 Posted 10/04/2019  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EV;

Could you elaborate a bit on the not straight enough. I did not know that was a required factor in a Lamination error.

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Lamination on a solid planchet coins tend to flow in a straight line:
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Another event that happens is call struck through debris. This tends to be not in a straight direction. More often a piece of debris from another coin:
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So the difference again.
A lamination issue is because the metal is rolled into shape, the metal is flattened to match the top of the blank. When going through the setup process (turning a blank into a planchet) the planchet lamination come off after the strike leaving a straight lamination peel.
A struck through debris is something that was loose in the chamber and attached to the new coin. Can be in various shapes, but is usually smaller. So how can you tell the difference for sure? Weight. If the coin is under weight, then it is a lamination. It if is over weight, then it is a struck through debris.

Not a large premium for most of these, but they get more interesting when they are larger.
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This one sold for five figures.
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 Posted 10/05/2019  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then this coin would be considered Debris or ?

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I feel it is a lamination issue. Keep in mind that rolling of the stock material can at times have some contaminant in the stock material. After striking it come loose from the coin. So I feel this one has to lamination issue on your coin.
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