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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I bought these three on ebay several years ago for, I think, a total of $26. The seller said that they were returned from PCGS without holders. I have no idea how much he paid for the coins, but the grading fees and shipping had to have cost more than a hundred bucks. He did hint at the fact that PCGS could have been wrong in their assessment that these coins were counterfeit, but who knows the true story. I do have the rejection labels from PCGS, but I can't locate them right now. Do you have any counterfeit coins like these? Modified real coins? Post them here if you'd like. I would love to see what's out there.    Edit: Clarification. I know these are counterfeit. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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10/19/2019 7:40 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Notoriously difficult to catch counterfeits as the coins themselves had so many die and striking issues.
The only things I see that are the least bit strange are the dates. But dates were often overstuck and dies could be used far past their prime.
I would suggest looking over PCGS and NGC to see if they have matching dates for what you have.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The dates on all three really look "funny" and weird.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8938 Posts |
All are poor quality counterfeits
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4085 Posts |
PCGS Code 90 is Not Genuine / Counterfeit
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree the date logos are clearly off here, especially on the 1880.
Edited by Coinfrog
10/19/2019 6:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Top denticle area is the red flag to me..all appear to be off the same reverse die
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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First clue should have been 26.00 .
These are known counterfeits .
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Pillar of the Community
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First clue should have been 26.00 .
These are known counterfeits . I bought them as counterfeits.  I had no question about that, and I thought it was funny that the seller questioned PCGS on the fact that they said they weren't genuine. I was curious to see how they were made and how close they were to the real thing. Just wanted to share them with the CCF and to see if anyone else had counterfeit or modified originals that they wanted to post. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pacificoin, Do you know where this type of counterfeit came from? I would like to know the background on them.
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Saw a few in England on a buying trip , who knows where this junk continues to come from .
A total game of Whack a mole .
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As mentioned the date logos are all messed up, and they all have the rev of 1867 hub style
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I've been looking for those at coin shows lately but no one seams to have them. Might be why so many fakes of those are popping up.
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