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Help Identify Coin Please (Id: Probable Shiite Token)

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 Posted 10/20/2019  12:05 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oblivious367 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this "coin" and I'm very curious as to what it is.
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 Posted 10/21/2019  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/17/2020  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@o367, (a belated) welcome to CCF. Second, having now spent a couple hours trying to find this, I'm still stumped. Hopefully my reply bumping this up to the top of the list will give it some added visibility to some of our members fluent in Arabic. I see the name Mohammad in the script on first pic. I also note that only in Afghanistan can I find the denomination of a coin being in parenthesis such as is shown on that first pic, but can't find anything even close on numista.
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 Posted 03/18/2020  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that an R in a circle at the top of the first image?

That could mean the icon next to it is a registered trademark? Anyone recognize it?
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 Posted 03/18/2020  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bjh, yes I think that you are right. I have been focused on the design element that looks something like a number one inside parentheses, much like this 1 Afghani:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces36674.html

But there is that registered trademark symbol as well:

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THe "number 1 in parentheses" is actually a "WM" monogram, presumably the trademark symbol/mintmark for whichever private mint struck this piece. The Registered Trademark logo is rarely used outside of North America, so I suspect it is the logo of an American company.

I'm sure I've seen it (the WM monogram-mintmark) somewhere before, but can't find it at the moment.
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The inscriptions are Muhammad rassul Allah "Muhammad is the apostle of Allah" and 'Ali wali Allah "'Ali is the friend of Allah". A Shiite token of some sort?
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Ok good to know @ks. Your translation skills and numismatic knowledge are a huge help here on CCF.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb

"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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