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Do Die Clashes Help/Hurt A Coin's Value?

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 Posted 09/25/2008  11:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add seadog92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was curious to know what effect die clashes have on the value of a coin. I posted a photo of a 1921 Standing Liberty quarter yesterday with the tail feathers and star from the reverse clearly visible on the obverse. Being my first experience with die clashes, I wondered what effect there is. I've read in Cline's book about the "teardrop" coins, but have seen nothing about die clashes on the '21. Anyone care to comment?
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 Posted 09/25/2008  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi seadogs

Die clashes as a class do not add much for value ,although certian coins and certian people will pay a small premium for them .

its kinda dependant on the interest in the series as a whole and the interest of the collector just how much of a premuim that might be .

no real hard fast rule as to applying value for coins which exhibit clashes.



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 Posted 09/30/2008  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw your other post about the same thing. Same coin also.
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To take this a step further ... dramatic clashes, with letter transfers do add value. An example is the 1889 VAM 23A Morgan dollar.

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The reasons are die damage and highly visible transfers. The damage and obvious results on the coin would more likely be spotted by mint employees and the die replaced with few coins being minted. And collectors would remove these from circulation faster. The result is a highly collectable coin with a very small mintage. The VAM 23A is virtually impossible to find unattributed and those holding the few known copies aren't letting them go. Voila! A pricey die clash.
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The VAM collectors would be the certian collectors I was refering to and morgans as a majority would be the coins which stand head and shoulders above just about any other coin on value for things such as die clashes .

I have seen and own several clashed Mercury dimes while just if not more dramatic in transfer of obverse to reverse and reverse to obverse they do not hold near the demand of the morgans for much less detail transfer .

for example !

I apologise for the obverse pic I tried to upload a better one but I ran into some problems in the process.

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 Posted 09/30/2008  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MetalMan,
Nice coin none the less!
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 Posted 10/01/2008  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks wwhitman

Its shy of FSB but its an interesting coin !

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 Posted 10/06/2008  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually all error coins are becoming rather big thing at coin shows. Note that there are more and more books describing error coins. The 2009 Red Book on pages 400 to 404 has a small assortment of many common errors. Other books such as coppercoins.com book on Lincoln Cents also goes way into coin error types. Many types of error coins are being found all the time.
Since there is a massive amount of new coin collectors and a limited supply of many coins, many have gone into type sets, error coins, counterfeits, etc. At one coin show I attend one dealer has nothing but error coins and a real lot of them.
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I can think of 3 unusual die clashes of Flying Eagle cents, that involve dies of other series and are highly sought by collectors.
It's possible to find these unattributed, although Snow-9 is pretty obvious. I have yet to find one myself.

This variety has the reverse die clashed with the obverse of an 1857 half dollar.
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Here's another that's clashed with a 25c reverse:
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I can't find a pic of the variety clashed with the 1857 Double Eagle obverse (Snow-7).
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10/06/2008 3:28 pm
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