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Pillar of the Community
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So, I'm waiting on this raw coin to arrive, just a cherrypick off of ebay a few days back that is on it's way. This die chip made me take a small gamble. Die scratches off the M in unum, and looked to have the die scratch off the back of Lincoln as well. Will obviously get more pics when it arrives. Should I even get my hopes up?  |
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United States
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Need full pics to be sure but with the rim alone I'm leaning more towards saying don't get your hopes up. Looks like a business strike.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah, figure I'll know more when the coin is in hand,
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Pillar of the Community
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Is your picture from the actual coin you bid on?
LOVE how square the inside of the rims are!!
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Pillar of the Community
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Honestly no, they are rare as hens teeth. Another marker you need to look for is a small crack near the stem on the right side. It will be between the stem and the rim.
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I did a composite of the top diagnostics for the 1909 VDB Matte Proof. The die chip and scratches will stand above the fields. The rims are wide and sharp on both the obverse and reverse and the matte surface has a pebbled, sand blasted look, but many mint state business strikes have a similar look. These may vary from coin to coin and different matte proof coins were struck with different die pairs. Matte Proof coins should be certified by a Third Party Grading company.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Well here's some images from the ebay, covered the background. Evidence seemed solid enough to pull the trigger on this coin though. Obverse Photo isn't clear enough to see if the die scratches in front of the nose are present. It has the die scratch running from Lincolns coat to the R of Liberty, The RU of Trust matches the photo in Kevin Flynn's book identically. And the die scratch from the bottom right of the R to the inside top left T of Liberty looks to be there. Reverse: Die chip seems solid to the right of unum. Can see a die scratch from the top right of the P of pluribus. And a die chip at 9 o'clock.   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The the beard. It is a business strike coin. The first years of issue on a new design are ones that are saved in large numbers. People probably saved rolls of these. Just like the 1931-S was one that was announced as being just a few struck. I heard one person wanted to buy all of them that year, but the mint didn't take the offer. In 1955 The 'S' mint was closing and a lot of these coins were sold in rolls. Same for the 1950-D nickels. A lot of rolls of these were saved. When so many are save, the prices get very soft on these examples.
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Pillar of the Community
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 not a matte proof |
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Pillar of the Community
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Just curious how you can tell the beard lacks details...used the photo posted by cooper above for this but comparing...the ear on mine is clear in the photo and struck better even...most of the pic is washed out. Not claiming this is a matte proof till I see it, but curious how you can judge by a washed out photo...I tried to cut out some of the brightness and cut the other to as similar as I could.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Oh, and check out the die scratch I happened to catch around the letters at the top and compare even...
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Ah, thank you, I see now, the jawline is far more crisp. I do appreciate it, here for the education.
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It appears to be a normal business strike with toning.
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Posted 11/02/2019 09:02 am
