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1916 Standing Liberty Quarter?

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I have what sure seems to be a 1916 SLQ. I checked about 6-7 different diagnostics, and it looks like it checks out. Even the date appears to show a 6 on the end. To me it's either a real 16 or a carefully doctored 17, but I guess I won't really be certain until I have it graded, which I plan on doing at a show next weekend. What do you guys think? I don't have a camera with a macro lens, although my brother has an iphone which should be able to take better photos if needed. If it is indeed real, would this grade closer to VG or F details? It seems like the type 1 had weaker strikes, perhaps in the 16s in particular, so I don't know if the same grading criteria for the 17 T1 and the rest of the SLQ series are the same as for 1916.


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 Posted 11/08/2019  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thread should help:

http://goccf.com/t/294479
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 Posted 11/08/2019  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure how to quote, so this is in response to the previous reply. I saw that thread as well as few others, and those discussions are what really led me to believe that it was in fact a 1916 when I was going after it. I think it is, I'm just curious what the consensus here seems to be. I used a lot of the same identifying characteristics to come to my own conclusion, but it's always nice to have a second opinion!
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 Posted 11/08/2019  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty sure it's a forgery. The rims are too wide, Liberty's head is funky and the date is obviously altered. Looks like a bad cast counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/08/2019  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really bad counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What makes it seem like a cast counterfeit? It was being sold as a 1917, so unless someone was just hoping that buyers would suspect it as a 16, it certainly wasn't being advertised as such.
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The whole coin seems odd . How can all those denticles on obverse be that clear with all that wear ? And look at that reverse , clear as a bell . If it's legit I don't think it would be a 1917 ,but a crazy worn 1916 .
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 Posted 11/09/2019  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The wear pattern is completely unnatural. It's wrong.



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 Posted 11/10/2019  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has a recessed date, everything before 1925 was raised. I vote fake.
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 Posted 12/23/2019  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
UPDATE: I sent this and about a dozen other coins off to get graded. Just got the notification that the grading is finished and it is currently in shipping. This coin came back as a 1916 with a G4 grade. It wasn't designated as "details" or "cleaned", "altered", "tooled", or anything else. I'm pretty happy as I went on a mission specifically to cherry pick this coin, and found one relatively quick. I may never find another, but even in low grade, I'm thrilled with the outcome!
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 Posted 12/23/2019  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G-04 ? Are you kidding ? I'm sure the only reason they gave it a G-04 is because of the full edges and rims of this coin . IMHO .
Congrats on your cherry pick .
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 Posted 12/23/2019  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who graded it if you don't mind my asking?
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 Posted 12/23/2019  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I must admit I don't know the nuances of the differences in grading criteria between type 1, 2, and 3 SLQs. I would imagine that a 1929 with this wear might not get a G4?
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I am staggered by this grade. It doesn't even look like a "6". Good for you, but not something that would interest me.
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This coin was graded by ANACS. Still don't know how to quote in a reply! Is there a button to click on the appropriate post or do I have to use forum code?
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Nice.....a grand slam home run in the 9th inning of 7th game! Woohoo!

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