1970 S 1c Large Date Doubled Die Obverse / DDO FS-101 (Fs-029) Found!

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dbeck22 Valued Member United States 117 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 09:04 am I just wanted to show everyone this beautiful coin I found. I will try to get some better pictures later today. Its a little hard to tell in the pictures but when you hold it and look at it with a loupe, its very easy to see the doubling. It also has all the die markers. The line going through the 0 of the date is faint but it is there. Report this Post to the Staff

mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9159 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 09:12 am It looks like a normal cent with a lot of hits. Report this Post to the Staff
CherryPicker1 Pillar of the Community United States 646 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 09:17 am Unfortunately its just the glare in the pictures that makes it look doubled. Not DDO FS-101. Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 8938 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 09:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
dbeck22 Valued Member United States 117 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 09:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 10:16 am Still looks normal to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74090 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 10:48 am Just a normal coin. Not even close to the real deal. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
dbeck22 Valued Member United States 117 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 12:41 pm last pics I'm uploading I promise i just don't see how you can say it's not even close... Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 1:23 pm Probably these reason we are not seeing a doubled die, is that these devices are normal sized. The lighting creates glare that reflects off the devices like a spotlight. Try having the light flow in the opposite direction. Allow the light to shine on the side without what you are trying to show, and allow light and darkness to be seen. Let it fall over that area, without spotlighting it. Enough light helps, but too much drowns the image. A lot of the 1970 DDO's are found on the date areas that you are probably not noticing: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=lds http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Note on the next one, how the devices are enlarged larger than normal? http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Note on this next one a tripled die: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Note on the next one how the devices are larger than normal on some of the devices, normal on others? http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Note how minor this next DDO is? Note the area is raised from the fields and not flat looking like Machine Doubling looks? http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Notice on the next set of images, the spread? The area showing the over/hubbing of the die is making the wider, showing spread on the centers of the devices. Machine Doubling affects just the outside edges of devices: http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds I hope this help you to see what is hub doubling better. Having the correct light will show us, what you are seeing. http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds Report this Post to the Staff
jmkendall Pillar of the Community United States 1590 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 1:23 pm I do see something. And I see what you are talking about. YOu have to understand that everyone has different vision and color differentiation. What is clear to one person is totally obscured to another. That happens alot on these types of questions. People tend to err on the side of caution. Having said all that, I will agree that the pictures are not focused enough to give a definitive answer. However; I do see some evidence that it could be a DDO. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 1:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74090 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 3:39 pm Dbeck, look at the pictures on VarietyVista again and then look at your coin. You can see that it's not even remotely close to a match. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 6:45 pm dbeck22, WADR,you need to work on getting much better photos on here. Let us know what you are using:camera-light source and maybe we can give you some useful tips. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Halo1st Pillar of the Community United States 2775 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 7:30 pm Quote: i just don't see how you can say it's not even close... When mint marks are present. They can provide another pick up point, when trying to make a die match or like in this case, eliminate the possible die match due to the mint mark locations not matching. Thank, Doug. edit: adding "location". Edited by Halo1st 12/05/2019 12:32 pm Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 7:40 pm I am sorry, but I have to agree with all of the above points. At most, you have some Machine Doubling, otherwise, you have a normal coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Petespockets55 Pillar of the Community United States 5772 Posts	Posted 12/04/2019 8:24 pm The MM location in your last group of images are good enough to tell it is not in the correct position to be DDO-001. Your coin has it above the bottom of the tail of the 9. The actual variety has it lower than the 9. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow. Report this Post to the Staff
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1970 S 1c Large Date DDO FS-101 (Fs-029) Found!