Slabs Arrived Today - German States

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wcg Valued Member United States 217 Posts	Posted 10/03/2008 10:48 pm I have had these medals & talers for awhile and finally decided to send them in for grading. The medals were too big for any conventional holders so slabbing served two main purposes: authentication and protection. They are all sede vacante issues, which means that they were issued to commemorate the death of the bishop. People generally think of sede vacante issues as coins/medals from the Italian Papal States to commemorate the death of a pope, but several dozen issues were also struck through the 1600s and 1700s in the german states and austrian states. In the following pictures, only the 1688 was a true taler struck for circulation. The remaining coins are considered to be medals. Here are some before and after shots: Report this Post to the Staff

t360 Pillar of the Community United States 2703 Posts	Posted 10/03/2008 11:04 pm beautiful medals with exquisite detail Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 10/03/2008 11:05 pm Very nice. Report this Post to the Staff
Zohar444 Pillar of the Community United States 1429 Posts	Posted 10/03/2008 11:51 pm Wow! You have a great collection there. Report this Post to the Staff
Archraz Pillar of the Community United States 3499 Posts	Posted 10/04/2008 01:45 am Those are all quite nice looking. That thaler is quite unique in its appearance. Report this Post to the Staff
trdhrdr007 Pillar of the Community United States 2335 Posts	Posted 10/04/2008 08:13 am I really like the high relief & detail on these older medals. Can anyone tell me how the minting process differed from regular coinage of the time? Report this Post to the Staff
wcg Valued Member United States 217 Posts	Posted 10/04/2008 09:03 am trdhrdr007, you have brought up a great question about minting process. I do know that the Bamberg piece (3rd piece) exhibited evidence that it was minted with a 3 piece collar. Unfortunately the edges are obscured in the slab now, but the medal has lettering around the edge. Beyond that, I do not have a clue. On the reverse at 8:00 you can see a line that I suspect was a result of the collar during the minting process, but I am not 100% certain. Anybody else have any knowledge about the minting technology of the time? Report this Post to the Staff
trdhrdr007 Pillar of the Community United States 2335 Posts	Posted 10/04/2008 12:06 pm I don't have any medals myself but have always admired the older ones that get posted in this part of the forum. Some of them have such high relief they almost appear 3D. Report this Post to the Staff
EgCollector Pillar of the Community Egypt 3470 Posts	Posted 10/04/2008 8:05 pm Very nice, thanks for sharing Report this Post to the Staff
muckeye Rest in Peace Australia 661 Posts	Posted 10/05/2008 06:07 am What was the cost of the 'slabbing' please, especially as a percentage of the value of the medals? regards, Edited by muckeye 10/05/2008 06:09 am Report this Post to the Staff
wcg Valued Member United States 217 Posts	Posted 10/05/2008 5:28 pm The slab fee was around $25 per. This would put the fee as a percentage of total value between 3% and 9%. I can generally justify a slab fee if the coin is $150 or more, but everybody has their own rule of thumb. Report this Post to the Staff
muckeye Rest in Peace Australia 661 Posts	Posted 10/06/2008 07:15 am Will you ever be able to recoup the fee if you sell? regards. Report this Post to the Staff
wcg Valued Member United States 217 Posts	Posted 10/06/2008 08:11 am Tough to say. With medals, the prospective audience is much smaller than coins, and prices are quite a bit more subjective. I do not have the ability to turn to the Krause guide for price ranges. However, I am not in the hobby just for the return on investment, so I understand that taking a loss on something is a distinct possibility - it has happened in the past and I am sure it will appen again. I really do not have a magical formula on slabbing. My decision to send these to NGC was based on the desire to protect the coin/medal, authenticate, properly attribute the coin/medal, and to clearly identify what it for family in the event something happened to me. Report this Post to the Staff
DagonX Valued Member Poland 392 Posts	Posted 10/06/2008 12:51 pm Nice collection :) Beautiful coin and medals Report this Post to the Staff
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