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I have always been skeptical by some of the VCoins stores. Now after browsing the sold coins, I found a proof! A well documented fake that came from Iran. Now this makes me think that this specific store has sold many coins that came from the same providers ( I know for fact that there are many forgery rings active in Iran and even some high end coins such as a sasanian Ardashir III gold came from the same forgery ring). https://www.vcoins.com/de/stores/pa...Default.aspxhttps://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=137719 |
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Moderator
 United States
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I seem to recall you went after Vcoins the last time which got you in trouble here. I hope you are not going down this path again. In the case of the Ardashir I, I agree it doesn't look right and there seems to be proof from Zeno. The coin from Cilicia also doesn't look right. The Siglos IMO is fine.
You should contact the seller and make your concerns known and see if he pulls the coins. I know this seller has been in business for a long time and has a good reputation. If it turns out he is selling fakes Vcoins will take action.
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I hate to see some crooks take advantage of naive collectors even if it makes trouble for me. In my opinion once a cheater always a cheater. why risk buying from someone who has proven to sell fakes?
Some might say every desler does mistake occasionally but I disagree . If dealer been selling for years obvious fakes like these should have been caught by him. only logical reason I can think of is it was a purposeful action to sell these to decieve.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I have bought what I thought to be a fake from vcoins and when it was brought to his attention he accepted I was not happy and gave me a full refund, also though he believed the coin in question to be debatable he decided we would not sell it in case it was not right.
The customer services are very good too.
Why buy from someone who has proven to sell fakes? Because we are all human and all make errors. An error is one thing whereas a knowing fraud is another thing entirely.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would be more inclined to trust Steve Album (mentioned in the Zeno post) and Parviz Ahghari (Pars Coins) than the anonymous Zeno user. Steve in particular is one of the great numismatic scholars of our time. That being said, every dealer in the business has been embarrassed by a deceptive fake at one time or another. It happens. Both Parviz and Steve have impeccable reputations built over decades. Questioning a coin is one thing. Impugning the honesty of industry-leading professionals is quite another.
Edited by Kushanshah
12/19/2019 6:25 pm
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Forum Dad
United States
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Bobby watch for your tone I want to avoid conflict here but if you push me I'm more welcome to challenge. I presented 3 fake coins here. if he sold one I can understand its a mistake but selling few ? and he is expert? how did an expert missed 3 times? that means he could miss 1000 times as well isn't it? Why should I buy from a dealer who can not detect what if fake and what is genuine?
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Forum Dad
United States
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Ya, 3 and a thousand, pretty close.  |
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Does it matter if I cheat my wife once or twice or 10 times? would it make a difference for her? Will she ignore and forgive me if I do it once? If you answer this question then you get your answer for fake sellers
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Forum Dad
United States
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Cheating on your wife is a choice and a mistake.
A known reputable seller listing a fake is most likely an oversight.
Stop being silly and maybe people will take you seriously.
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Yazul, A word to the wise. Bobby is the owner of this forum you are here under his good graces. I allowed you back to this forum and let you know in an email that I was not going to allow what caused you to get banned earlier. Do not, I repeat DO NOT start going on a witch hunt for Vcoin sellers again.
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I would be more inclined to trust Steve Album (mentioned in the Zeno post) and Parviz Ahghari (Pars Coins) than the anonymous Zeno user. Steve in particular is one of the great numismatic scholars of our time. Yes. I have bought from both of these sellers. SARC has an auction coming up and I may bid on something so I feel comfortable continuing to trust them. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
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I allowed you back to this forum and let you know in an email that I was not going to allow what caused you to get banned earlier. Aaah!....Now I remember.....Thanks Ron... @Yazul...You also thought a coin I posted as an example on this thread was possibly fake (seems to be your favourite word)... http://goccf.com/t/362666Personally I will just softly ignore any postings you make in the future.. 'Y Punto Final'..........Paul Edited by Palouche
12/20/2019 04:24 am
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Forum Dad
United States
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No need he's done. He was a previously banned member on very thin ice already.
He tried to play us this time, starting out as knowing nothing about ancient coins and in 8 months is expert enough to call out anyone he feels like on a fake.
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Posted 12/18/2019 10:23 pm
