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 Posted 12/20/2019  7:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeff8fish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, was wanting to see if anyone one might know what kind of error this is? What kind of value it might have? I have tried to find something similar but couldn't find anything like it. It's almost a perfect outline of Roosevelt's head. It looks like it might be an off center strike but not sure. It's pretty cool either way and the date 1974D is al present but hard to see. Thanks in advance for any information.

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 Posted 12/20/2019  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@j8f, first welcome to CCF. Second, it is a little hard to see what you have with these pics with the coin still in the 2x2. If you don't mind adding pics of this coin outside of the 2x2 into this thread, that would be awesome. I do note, that you are not flattening your staples on the 2x2, which is a big no-no. Those protruding metal loops can scratch adjacent coins in storage.
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 Posted 12/20/2019  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snoopydoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quick question for Spence, I have tens of thousands in 2X2 with staples like that, I always have to be careful in stacking and storing them, you make a great point on flattening the staples.
How do you do that on a mass scale? Do you use some type of press that fits around different coin sizes to flatten all four staples at once.
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 Posted 12/20/2019  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF!

A couple of questions... Do you know the weight of the coin? Does the edge show reeding and if so is it strong, normal or weak?
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 Posted 12/20/2019  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How do you do that on a mass scale?


One at a time with flat pliers. I think that we have had several prior thread on CCF talking about this. I'll try to find a link to post to this thread, although you can use the search box in the upper lefthand corner with keywords like STAPLE and 2X2.


Added: yikes there are a bunch. Here are a couple:

http://goccf.com/t/233042
http://goccf.com/t/253352
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Best I could do and thanks for the tip on the staples.
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Thanks for the links Spence, lot of good info and tips in there.
I will work on a resolution.
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The coin does show weak reeding on the edges. I can't speak to the weight as I don't own a scale. While looking at the edge it seems thinner than normal almost as if it has a taper to the edge.
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Those pics are pretty good. This coin looks kinda polished (especially the obv), but may have started life with a grease-filled die too. I'm not sure, but am interested to see what others think.
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Thanks For the replies all. I have had someone say they thought it might be a Grease Filled Die in the past but they said they weren't really sure and then tried to buy it off me. Then gave me his number and said if I ever decide to sell it give me a call. I just think it's a neat little coin as it really just looks like the silhouette on the front. Thanks for the help.
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If the weight is correct, I really think this is an adjustment strike. It displays weak rims and reeding, so I don't think it's a Grease Filled Die situation. If it's underweight it could be a thin planchet. The only thing I'm worried about is the look of the too smooth surfaces. It may have been polished at some time, but that may be the pictures.

I'd still like to know what the coin weighs. If you could take it to a coin shop or jewelry shop, they might be able to weigh it for you. Please post the weight if you can.

Keep it protected in a 2X2. It's an interesting coin!
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Yeah. I'd go with possibly a die adjustment strike, do an image search for die adjustment strike dime and then check out the graded ones pictures it looks very similar.. however I'm not liking how shiny it is. It looks polished to me in these pictures which would affect it massively if someone put a shine on it.
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It's a weak (low-pressure) strike. The term "die adjustment strike" is deceptive, inaccurate, and unwarranted in all circumstances.
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