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Can You Folks Take A Look At These Seated Liberty Dollars?

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I believed these to be the real deal but the more I read the more I worry about fakes. If they're real, they're in really good shape...

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 Posted 01/01/2020  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for an unhappy welcome to the forum, but they don't look right at all. The 1841 and 1848 have very crude dates.
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The 1848 and 1841 are definite fakes, the dates look way off, like something out of a cartoon. Not sure about the 1872 though.

Early dollars are among the most counterfeited coins, period. Every week it seems, we get reports of people finding these, only to find they're poor quality Chinese fakes. Weight and magnet tests will cull out most of the bad quality fakes.

https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/1841-1/6927
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/1848-1/6935
https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/1872-1/6968

Here are some pictures of real coins with these dates.

I will maintain until the day I die that there are more fakes of these early dollars out there than there are real ones. Might not be PC but, then again, I could care less. (I hate that concept)
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I appreciate it. I was afraid of that. Almost in too good of condition, although I must say they seem to be pretty well made in comparison to some. Supposedly had been in the family for years...
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Agree on the first two, but the '72 looks much better. Must be an expert witness here.



to the CCF!
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I'd say 3/3 counterfeits.
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My first impression is that they have all been cleaned.
I don't know SL's well enough to pass judgement on them.
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 Posted 01/02/2020  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently well cleaned and that is odd for fakes. Why clean a fake coin? Why not try a magnet to see if made with iron? Also, what is the weight? They all sort of look fake though.
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They all look cast to me.
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Having seen a number of these in recent years, they typically appear to be in xf-40/45 condition, along with a dull aluminum-gray coloration. Typically underweight, they fail the ping-ring test. Some have been attracted to a magnet. Color and condition detail tend to be the initial alerts to me.
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Not magnetic. Oddly, they make a satisfying "ting" when dropped... I'll try to get an accurate weight.
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All fakes.
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The serifs on the numbers in the 1841 date are bold and rounded compared to the thin and pointed serifs on the PCGS specimen at the first link that CalzoneManiac provided.
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Thanks...I don't disagree... definitely differences...
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Quote:
...cast to me.


I tend to agree and does there appear to be remnants of a seam separating the obv. from the rev. on the rim?
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