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2017- P Rvlt. Dime With Reverse Error: Feeder Fingers & Possible DD

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HAPPY NEW YEAR GOOD PEOPLE!!

I have a question of the rarity and value of this dime below that I found today. It is a 2017-P dime with feeder fingers on the reverse on both sides of the torch shaft and a possible DD on "ONE". Please help me with this because I did some looking into this variety but only found one video from 2/2/19 on YouTube with Blueridge talking about the "Feeder Fingers" on a 2018-P.
I searched all over and found nothing on a 2017-P anywhere which gives me the idea that this may be a rare coin.

Please verify that this is or isn't a Feeder Finger error and if so, whats the rarity and projected value? Also is ONE doubled?

Green arrows: Feeder Fingers
Red arrows: DD


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Looks more like die abrasion scratches than FF damage to me. The ONE looks like MD. No added value.
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Feeder finger damage. (AKA Die scrapes) The feeder fingers get struck and alter the dies each time a coin is ejected from the machine:
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Hmmmm...okay...they seem to be very similar to Blue ridges example but a little less error.

Thanks for the feedback :)
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My understanding is that feeder finger die scrapes are unique to the anvil die. By 2017, the mint had completed its conversion to the Schuler Press and the Reverse was the hammer die.

This leads me to think these are die polishing lines and not feeder finger scrapes.
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With the Schuler Press, feeder finger die scrapes can happen on either die and even on both at the same time. Ken Potter says he wrote an article about that in Numismatic News sometime around 2000

So they are feeder finger die scrapes
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Thank you for your feedback.

To make sure I'm on the same page with what your saying in short is. These are Feeder Fingers? If so, according to Blueridge on his post last year

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..."Feeder Fingers bring value to the coin".
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I cannot see that they bring much of a premium since they are fairly common. Check for ebay sales
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Not adding a value to a coin. Just a die event that happen. People save them, but I see no real premium for them. I used to think that the main purpose of polishing a die was to remove die clashes, but probably the most damage to the designs on the dies, is the polishing to remove Feeder Finger Damage.
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Thank you all for the feedback and that you sooooo much for the images COOOOP.
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Since the Mint uses Dial Presses so much in recent years it is impossible to say any of this is from a feeder "finger" - "feeder mechanism" is the proper term here.
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Thank you Koin :)
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