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Yes I agree, somewhere I looked it said the main difference between the two eras was that the later coins were much more crudely executed.

Just one more year and we reach 1845 the most common year for early Victorian Halfcrowns of which I have one.

1846 was also the first really bad Potato Harvest in Ireland (An Gorta Mor) and was the beginning of the serious potato famine, which saw the deaths of 1 million Irish and the eventual migration out of Ireland of 4 million more. In 1841 Ireland had 9 million people, in 1851 7 million by 1891 it was just 3.5 million. Today the Republic has barely 5 million and the north 1.5 million.

1846 was also the year the Corn Laws were redacted in the UK and Bread became much cheaper overnight and also the main year of the Mexican American war, many American troops fighting side by side became enemies 15 years later.
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1846 -- Principality of Schwarzburg-Sonderhausen, 1/2 groschen:

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1846 -- United States, 2.5 dollars:

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1846 -- United States, 10 dollars:

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erafjel with his 17th and 18th century Swedish coins

Sorry @Princetane, I have very few Swedish coins older than 1870. I will show the ones I have, for sure, but most of my contributions will be from France (they too have nice coins, I promise ).

But for today I actually happen to have a Swedish coin!

Sweden 1846, Oscar I, 1 ducat. Sweden minted gold ducats for the international trade until 1868.

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The 2 1/2 gold is an 1846-O. Mintage of 62,000.
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The Liberty Seated half dollar die varieties were and are studied by William "Bill" Bugert of the LSCC, and his initials "WB" are used to identify some of the more well-known die varieties.

The first 4 volumes (S, CC, O1, O2) are available at no charge in PDF format; the 5th (Philadelphia) is not free currently.
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Thanks, paralyse.
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Sorry @Princetane, I have very few Swedish coins older than 1870. I will show the ones I have, for sure, but most of my contributions will be from France (they too have nice coins, I promise ).

Sorry I got you confused with someone else in the 5th edition, I have an old smoky cheapo computer that can't have more than 3 tabs open without it going to blue screen of death, so hence can't check facts well.

I remember someone showed a lot of old Swedish coins in Marks from the 17th century and someone else had heaps of Dutch, French jetons from like 1600 etc and someone had heaps of Lithuanian and Polish small silver coins.
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1845 and I am back with a halfcrown for the first time in 42 days since June 2nd


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1845 was the most common year of the early Victorian series (1839 - 1850), and of course all I can pony up is a well worn example in aVG condition. Still watch this space, things will get better.

1839 and 1841 Halfcrowns are incredibly rare, 1841 had just 46k minted, 1839 no number given but believed to be under 10k. On the other hand 1845 was 2.25 million issued, low by early 29th century standards, but high by early 19th century ones.
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A nice 1846 four pence (groat) and a not so nice shilling

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More well-travelled Victorian coins for 1845, four pence (groat) and sixpence this time

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One of my favorite Victorian coins is this 1845 farthing (British East India) with an obverse die that broke in half and neat woodgrain toning on the reverse.

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A scarcer 1845 Large Cent, Newcomb N-15
As an R4 this is one of the tougher 1845's.


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