2011-P James Garfield Dollar Doubled Die Reverse / DDR (Probably WDDR-001)

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Oijogja Pillar of the Community United States 715 Posts	Posted 01/09/2020 11:50 pm Pretty sure it's WDDR-001: http://doubleddie.com/1628477.html I actually found two of these tonight. Typical minor doubling of the sleeve for this reverse design. Report this Post to the Staff

sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 12:41 am Hi, Oijogja. You are on the roll... nice find. I tried to compare your coin pix doubling from Wexler's (the link you provided). My eyes are showing me that your doubling looks more like a coupling nut (horizontal) while that of Wexler's specimen looks more like a bean (has a curve). There are no markers to compare/to look for... I hope that helps... Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74892 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 01:10 am I think it's a new unlisted Doubled Die. Doesn't seem to match WDDR-001. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Oijogja Pillar of the Community United States 715 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 4:19 pm Well, I'm still fairly uncertain if it's a match or not to be honest. I personally can't tell a difference in shape, but you all might be right. However, I am additionally wondering if perhaps John has no die markers noted because the coin he attributed was not in very good shape and he couldn't determine any with enough certainty. I do at least know that the two coins I found are the same variety. There are plenty of markers that match. I might send in one to him and see what he says, and perhaps if it is a match he'll update his photos with some of the markers I've come across here. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 4:25 pm Die markers are kind of like the paper boy. *Sometimes you find them, and sometimes they appear later on.* Edited by coop 01/10/2020 4:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Oijogja Pillar of the Community United States 715 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 4:45 pm Coop, are you saying you think the coin John attributed as WDDR-001 was likely an earlier die state instead of simply being too circulated? In other words, just because there are die markers on my coins where none were noted by John, it doesn't preclude this being a match, but could instead be a different die state? Or am I not following you? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/10/2020 5:05 pm Or it could be a later die state and the markers hadn't formed on the die when your coin was struck. One thing that doesn't change is die damage like die cracks. If your coin is a match, and doesn't have the crack, it is a previous die strike. If the die crack/s look larger/longer or multiple, that is a clue that was struck later than your example. But lets say you have a die crack and the listed one has a die crack, but on a different area of the device. Chances are they are not from the same die pair. (Trying to help you to think outside the box a little) Some times they appear close, but not a match and they are not from the same die. Of if you have doubling that is extra, then it maybe not from the same die, but a new/different die. So a lot of investigation can go on matching dies. Some years have as many as 176 different DDR's for them. So I try to match up three markers that appear on a coin to match a know die number, before I'm real sure of a match , or not a match. Report this Post to the Staff
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2011-P James Garfield Dollar DDR (Probably WDDR-001)