2019-P Jefferson Nickel Base Of Steps- Possible Doubled Die Reverse / DDR ?

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sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 1:56 pm Hi, everyone. I need help in determining if the base of the steps is an example of tilted hub doubling. I looked at Brian's site and Variety Vista's but most of the DDR listings were related to the center door. I looked for the overlay but it's not a match for a clash. Thanks for the assistance. Thanks... Hi, Tanman2001. Hopefully, these 2 pics can show you what you want to see... thanks. Hi, John1. Here are pics of the left and right windows. Hope they are good enough. Thanks. Additional coins: Thanks.... Edited by sosicoin 01/15/2020 12:18 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4406 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 2:20 pm Any way you can get closer pics? Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 3:22 pm Something in the left and right windows too. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4406 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 4:12 pm The windows look like they have die cracks and pre-die break depressions. Below the steps, I have no idea. I have not seen anything like that before. Definitely far from the center where most doubled dies are found. The only hub doubling on nickels that is that far from the center shows as extra thickness on the lettering. Report this Post to the Staff
sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 4:23 pm Thanks, Tanman2001 for your input on this 'alien' coin. Let us wait what the other experts would say to break the mystery on this coin.... Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 4:31 pm I have found 2 of these, when I get a chance ill grab them and take pics, I assumed it was just PMD from another coin hitting the surface or some other object so I will take a better look Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 4:35 pm Let's do it, Johnwayne007. Let's find answers to solve the mystery.... Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHunter27 Pillar of the Community United States 5887 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 6:19 pm Interesting. Reminds me of this doubled die: http://varietyvista.com/04a%20JN%20...6PDDR003.htm -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage Report this Post to the Staff
sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 8:37 pm Thanks for the info, CoinHunter27. Was the 1946 DDR-003 the first doubled die extra step in the Nickel series with IV+VI (I need to look that up). Lol... I don't know what it meant. Whereas, the 2019 was with VIII... could it be the first extra steps since 2006? There might be others, just no one had been paying attention, possibly... Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 9:57 pm I think is it damage to the die. Note the outside edges of the building is affected. Nothing shows a doubling affect of the design. Even the devices are not affected, just the field areas on all three sides. Not even a hint of a DDR on the center door area. So I feel it is not a hub issue, but a die contact issue. Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4406 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 10:45 pm It is important to realize that the 1946 DDR was made during the multiple-squeeze era while today the mint uses single-squeeze. (They don't make dies the same way, so that kind of doubling may be impossible now) I'm leaning towards damage as well, but I'm interested to see JohnWayne007's coins as well. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHunter27 Pillar of the Community United States 5887 Posts	Posted 01/14/2020 11:22 pm The 1946 was a different era of doubled die, yes. I was just thinking out loud . That kind of doubling, as you stated above, may be impossible now. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage Report this Post to the Staff
sosicoin Valued Member United States 393 Posts	Posted 01/15/2020 11:41 am Thanks Coop, Tanman2001, and CoinHunter27. Would you like me to take pics of other 2019-P nickels with similar base? Will 5 more coins be fine? What does having coins of same base mean? Can damage to the die occur in multiple coins too until corrected/polished by the mint? If this is not a doubled die, can this be an error or variety? Thanks, again. Edited by sosicoin 01/15/2020 11:46 am Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4406 Posts	Posted 02/10/2020 9:54 pm Wiles just listed this variety as DDR-002: http://www.varietyvista.com/04d%20J...9PDDR002.htm Definitely a very unusual one. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinHunter27 Pillar of the Community United States 5887 Posts	Posted 02/10/2020 10:00 pm Wow! Happy it went through as a DDR. Certainly a very interesting One too. -CH27 Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage Edited by CoinHunter27 02/10/2020 10:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
QuarterHoarder72 Pillar of the Community United States 2156 Posts	Posted 02/11/2020 8:27 pm Nice one! Glad it was listed as a DDR. Report this Post to the Staff
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2019-P Jefferson Nickel Base Of Steps- Possible DDR?