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Wide AM Maybe?

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 Posted 10/15/2008  05:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It is a 1998. I cant tell if its wide or not?
http://killians76.jalbum.net/possiblewideam/
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10/15/2008 12:44 pm
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 Posted 10/15/2008  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be, but to be absolutely sure, Check the location of the initials "FG" on the Reverse.
Depending on where the FG is located, will tell you 100 per cent if it is or is not.


Here are 2 pictures of a 98 Wide AM that I have.

Notice how close to the Memorial the initials FG are, in particular the F, it's very near the Memorial.
In a normal business strike coin for 1998, 99, and 2000, in addition to the A&M touching each other at the base, the "FG" is further away from the Memorial.

This will tell you for sure if it is or is not.

Hope this helps.

Image: Wide-AM-Maybe? 1998WideAMjpeg1.jpg
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Can you post a pic of an FG comparison Chuck? I have one that looks like this and thought it wasnt far enough apart to be anything.
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 Posted 10/15/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whether it is a Wide AM or not is irrelevant without a date attached to it.
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biokemist6:

- I was going on the premise that it's a 98,99 or 2000 LMC that killians76 was referring to.

killians76- If you can, please post pics of your coin showing the complete date and a close-up pic of the "FG" on the reverse so your coin can be attributed properly.

Thanks.

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10/15/2008 11:17 am
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 Posted 10/15/2008  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a Close AM...not the Wide AM.
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Hi Chuck:

Question,
The very small distance created at the base between the A & M on killians76's coin, was this caused by die wear/ or ?

I'm still very curious as to where the "FG" initials are located on this coin.

* I just remembered that I had a 2000 LMC with a similar separation as killians76's coin - original posting has been archived.*

Here is a picture of the 2000 LMC coin again, and the position of the FG, verifying it as a normal 2000 Close AM

Image: Wide-AM-Maybe?
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 Posted 10/15/2008  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All,

I agree with Coppercoins this is not a Wide AM.

Thanks,
Bill
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Another sign to tell the difference is that (from 1998-2000) the Wide AM is a RDV-006, while the the Close AM is a RDV-007.


RDV-006 Wide AM
Image: Wide-AM-Maybe? 1989SRDV006FG.jpg
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RDV-007 Close AM
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Just a note.
When I am looking for a wide I just take a quick peek
at america. On a close the am looks almost seperated out there
on it's own from the erica. On the wide all the letters seem to flow
evenly spaced as just one word.
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In a number of cases the hubbing of the reverse die is shallow enough so as not to completely sink the letters into the die creating a small space.

As Indian1 and the others indicate, the close and Wide AM designs are actually just that - completely separate designs. There are a large number of very small differences in the two that can be used as a guide, the most popular and well-known being the spacing of the initials from the base of the memorial.

Another helpful sign that helped me in determining an off-center completely missing the AM and initials is the spacing between the letters of STATES. On the older Wide AM design the spacing of these letters is even. On the newer Close AM design the A is closer to the second T than the first.

So you see it's not a simple spacing issue between the A and M...and if you learn the other design differences between the two you will be able to easily identify them from one another.
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Thanks again Chuck !
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