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Ad68 Fiddling While Rome Burns -Post Your Roman Denarii Pics

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 Posted 10/29/2008  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is very nice smile that has been passed down to us through the centuries!

Legend has it that Julia Domna's son Geta died in her arms after being stabbed by soldiers acting on Caracalla's behalf.
One son murdered by the other - I think that's why she doesn't smile.
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 Posted 10/29/2008  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one has a smile but shows some wear.

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Otacilia Severa, 244-249, Silver Antoninianus.
Empress Otacilia Severa was the wife of Emperor Marcus Julius Philippus (aka Philip the Arab).

Obv: M OTACIL SEVERA AVG - Diademed, draped bust facing right on crescent

Rev: CONCORDIA AVGG - Concordia seated facing left, holding patera and cornucopiae.

According to Wikipedia, in August 249 Philip died in battle at Verona. Severa was in Rome at the time.
When the news of Philip's death reached Rome, Severa's son was murdered by the Praetorian Guard. The child died in her arms.
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 Posted 10/30/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first ancient coin was a denarius of Severus Alexander. It was because of this coin that I became fascinated with Imperial coins.

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The Augustus from Lugdunum type shown above is a popular type. I have one too!

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I used to have a Nero from Lugdunum (A.D. 60-61) when he was a bit youger than the coin that started the thread:-

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I have this Vitellius (also Lugdunum) from A.D. 69

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My collection is dominated by coins from Lugdunum and Emesa. The following coin if from this second of these passions.

Septimius Severus denarius
Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
Rev:- INVICTO IMP, Trophy with captured arms below
Minted in Emesa. A.D. 194-195
Reference:- RIC IV 389. RSC 232.

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I have a few hundred denarii and I won't bore you with them all.

Regards,
Martin
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welcome aboard the coin forum Maridvnvm and please bore please bore the more the merrier and variety is the spice of life also I'm starting to get to the ones that have been hit with a chaff cutter so please bring it on and post as many as you can this the reason Tom started this thread so you can air your ware good luck regards Harry oh and P.S. are they detector finds
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 Posted 10/30/2008  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will try and post some coins that might be of interest...

I saw your Septimius Severus legionary denarius earlier. Here are a few from my own collection:-

Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- LEG X-IIII GEM M V / TR P COS, Legionary eagle between two standards, Capricorns shown on standard.
Minted in Rome. A.D. 193
Reference:- Cohen 272. BMCRE 19, RIC 14 (Scarce)

Early example of the bust type with straight hair rather than curly hair as was adopted very shortly afterwards.

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and then the same type with the more usual curly hair (same id):-

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Both these coins celebrate the support of LEG XIIII in Septimius rising to emperor. This is the most prolific legionary coin from this series.

The Capricorns seen on the standards were the symbol of LEG XIIII.

LEG XIIII coins appear from other mints too but are much more scarce:-

Obv- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
Rev:- LEG X-IIII GE-M M V / TR P COS, Legionary eagle between two standards, Capricorns shown on standard.
Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194-195
References:- RIC -

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and even more rarely with scarce obverse legend varieties:-

Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SE-V PERT AVG II C, laureate head right
Rev:- LEG X-IIII GE-M M V / TR P COS, Legionary eagle between two standards
Minted in Emesa. A.D. 194
Reference:- RIC -, BMCRE -. RSC -.
One of only two examples know with this scarce obverse legend variety.

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Back to Rome for 2 different legions.

Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- LEG XIII GEM / TR P COS, Legionary eagle between two standards.
Minted in Rome. A.D. 193
Reference:- Cohen 269. BMCRE 17, RIC 13 (Scarce)

Legion XIII Gemina was stationed at Apulum in Dacia. It is important for collectors to distinguish carefully issues of this scarce legion from the common Legion XIIII Gemina Marti Victrix. Legion XIII coins never have 'MV' following 'LEG XIII GEM' while Legion XIIII coins always have 'MV' following 'LEG XIIII GEM'.

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Obv:- IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- XI CL / TR P COS, Legionary eagle between two standards, Capricorns on standards.
Minted in Rome. A.D. 193
Reference:- Cohen 268. RIC 12 (Scarce)

Capricorns were the symbols of the XIIII the legion though Capricorns have been noted on several other legions in error.

Legio XI Claudia Pia Fidelis dates back to the two legions (the other was the XIIth) recruited by Julius Caesar to invade Gallia in 58 BC, and it existed at least until early 5th century, guarding lower Danube in Durostorum (modern Silistra, Bulgaria).

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Martin
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Thank you Martin, for posting some of the coins in your fascinating collection!
I can see that you have studied them extensively.
Your set of legionary denarii of Septimius Severus is impressive!
Thank you again for sharing your knowledge of the various types; they are very interesting.
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Good one Martin there great mate are they detecting finds or from a seller I also like the variation in the standards there diverse enough to make it interesting regards Harry
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Plautilla wife of Caracalla 197 - 211 A.D.19mm 3.2g Rome mint ? RIC's ?
Obv:PLAVTILLA AVGVSTA b/hd R
Rev:VENVS VICTRIX Venus leaning on shield,palm in left,? in right,Victory at feet
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Another interesting coin, Harry!

Here is the first ancient coin I bought for my collection.

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Roman Republic, M. Lucilius Rufus. 101 B.C. Silver Denarius.
obv: Helmeted head of Roma right, PY behind
rev: M. LVCILI RVF, Victory in biga right
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I think a coin that beautiful would start anybody collecting,love the toning mate regards Harry
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Thanks Harry! Here is another from the Roman Republican period.

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A. Postumius A.f. Sp.n. Albinus. 81 BC. Silver Serrate Denarius.
obv: Veiled head of Hispania right
rev: Togate figure standing left, raising hand; legionary eagle to left; fasces with axe to right.
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 Posted 11/03/2008  05:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some very nice coin there.
I have never seriously collected Republican coinage but have owned a couple of examples over the years. The following is one of my favourites amongst them.

Denarius Serratus
Obv:- Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, Barbed spear head.
Rev:- Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, Elephant head.
Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79.
Reference(s) - RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311.
Symbol variety - RRC -. Babelon 149. BMCRR -.

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The symbols on the obverse and reverse of these coins are always paired. One symbol pair forming a die pair with a new symbol pair for every die pair and the symbols never repeated. At least 231 die pairs with different symbol varieties exist. There has been a lot of debate into the meaning on the symbols as the obverse and reverse symbols are always linked. There is a theory that they represent different guilds etc. There are likely to be 246 die pairs as one of the dies has CCXLVI as the symbol mark on both sides.

Regarsd,
Martin
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Fascinating coin! I really like ancient coins with mythological creatures. Thanks for posting it!

Once I found a small Greek coin with a sphinx on it in an uncleaned lot. I was very excited.

I have just three Roman Republican denarii. I am getting interested in acquiring a few more!
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The coinage of the Republic is a fascinating series and has huge variety with some spectacular coins. I have only obtained a few republican coins over the years. Each coin can be accompanied by small amounts of research that help to place them in a historical context.

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Silver denarius
Obv:- Diademed head of King Ancus Marcius right, lituus behind, ANCVS below
Rev:- Equestrian statue of Q, Marcius Rex above the aqueduct, Aqua Marcia, flower below horse, AQVA MAR· (MAR in monogram) within the arches of the aqueduct, PHILIPPVS on left;
References:- SRCV 382, Sydenham 919, Crawford 425/1, RSC I Marcia 28
Rome mint 56 B.C.
3.295g, 17.9mm, 180 degrees

The Marcia gens claimed descent from Ancus Marcius, the fourth king of Rome, who constructed the first aqueduct. The reverse honors the moneyer's ancestor, Q. Marcius Rex, who constructed the Aqua Marcia in 144 B.C. The lituus on the obverse may refer to the augurate of another ancestor, L. Marcius Philippus. This moneyer was the stepfather of Octavian.

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That's fantastic Martin I have 3 Republican coins 2 I have posted the third I still can't work out that why I didn't post it also not a good example as it came in a 10 coin lot that I brought from FORVM coins and at least 5 of them were great regards Harry
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