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I know there have been a bit of a discussion regarding the 1982 zinc cent and I thought I would get some opinions on this one I had recently found. On the obverse you can see extra thickness in "LIBERTY" along with a notch on the end of the "T" you can also see that both sides of the "T" are different sizes, I know there is damage to the top of the "T" but I don't think it is enough to make a notch appear with extra metal and thickness. Here is a photo of the "T" that is pretty self explanatory..  Here is a side by side of the two 1982 zinc large dates for comparison. "A" is the coin with the notching on the T and the extra thickness. "B" is just used for comparison.  Here is a GIF image of an overlay of both A and B for visual so you can see what I am seeing, all of the letters in "LIBERTY" get thicker. Both images used for the overlay were taken from the same distance and position.  Would this be considered a doubled die? If so I'm assuming very minor but I figured I should share this with you guys and get some opinions. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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Here is a comparison of the Date as well, "A" is the coin in question, "B" is just the comparison coin. As you can see on the bottom of the 9 on "A" there is a noticeable thickness compared to "B", and you can see extra thickness in the 8 and 2 as well.  Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I had some spare time this evening to get a couple more photos, First picture is of the obverse of both 1982 large date zinc cents, left one being the coin in question. Second photo is of the Reverse of the coin in question with what looks to be 3 die marks between "TES" of "STATES".   Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I see it as wear and tear while in circulation, IMO
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I see it as different rates of circulation wear and not a DDO. John1  |
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Im not 100% convinced, I would like to be but if you look at the bottom of the 9 it is thick and not just from wear, the lighting of the images for the dates are really not that great but I am certain that the bottom of the 9 is twice as thick as a normal 92 large date zinc, and I just dont see how wear can creat notches, the E in "WE" is almost closed, the letters in liberty are again almost twice the size and all the "doubling" I am finding is going in the exact same rotation clockwise.. I'm usually very content with the answers I have gotten on here, but if this really isn't doubled than half the DDO's I have been researching online must not be either, I can pick numerous DDO's from the wexlers site that show the same characteristics as the one shown here. Again, I'm just giving my opinion on why I'm not convinced, I'm obviously not certain enough to send it off but I'm also not convinced enough to discard it as nothing. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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Here is a close up of the "198" in the date so everyone can see the bottom of the 9 more clearly. You can also see the 1 in the date is also longer with extra metal at the bottom, if all of this were circulation wear would the devices not be closer to the surface and more "Squished", the devices to me look normal in height from the surface and I don't think circulation can make extra material appear where there shouldn't be.  Thinner 1982 large date zinc for comparison.  Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007
01/31/2020 05:55 am
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If you look here http://doubleddie.com/828802.html the spread in the date looks the same as the one listed as 1982-D 1˘ WDDO-002. I know it is a Copper minted in Denver, but it is still a 1982 large date. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007
01/31/2020 06:07 am
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Sorry, I agree with what was said above, just looks like circulation on it.
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You cannot compare copper to zinc in how they wear. I am sorry, JohnWayne007, I have to agree with all of the above, your coin is displaying, I think, normal circulation. No two coins circulate the same and thus, hits and gashes sometimes mimic errors. I can appreciate your eye for detail and always not forward to your postings.
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Posted 01/30/2020 10:31 pm
