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nick10 Pillar of the Community United States 3207 Posts	Posted 03/10/2020 2:14 pm if the planchet has delammed before the strike, I would expect something like this obv/rev combo to be the result Report this Post to the Staff
Aceinthehole1 New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 03/11/2020 12:23 am So it is either PMD or a lamination error? I can try better photos if anyone thinks it would help. I don't know if I have shown the "I" well enough in the attached photos, but it seems like the letter was moved from "In God..." to a position below the portrait. I don't understand PMD well enough to explain how these transfers moved across the coin. How does this happen? I am guessing that the value in a lamination error depends on the buyer if it turns out to be one. I am learning here, so bear with me while I try to understand this.. Report this Post to the Staff
HGK3 Pillar of the Community United States 574 Posts	Posted 03/11/2020 3:52 pm I see 3 distinct areas of damage to the coin - the jaw, the collar and the rim. The jaw looks strongly like a lamination error as I don't see any signs of physical impact or scratches and no uplifted metal around the edges. It looks as if the jaw portion flipped down at some point in time. I'd like to see better pictures of the collar and the rim to see if there are any signs of impact to either, but from what I do see of the collar I'm leaning to lamination here as well. I do see something below the W of "WE" that looks like a piece of a lamination error possibly coming inward from the rim. My vote would be for a lamination error to the jaw with better pictures of the collar and rim needed. Still possible it's both PMD and error. Report this Post to the Staff
Aceinthehole1 New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 03/12/2020 9:48 pm I am sending a lot of photos for review. I hope this helps. Thanks to everyone for taking a look! Report this Post to the Staff
Aceinthehole1 New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 03/14/2020 12:12 am Just checking in.... Anyone able to do anything with all of these new pics? Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 03/14/2020 09:03 am Now I think I see there are generally two areas that are recessed and two raised areas. I think they are mirror images of each other so I think parts of a lamination situation has caused the recessed areas to become the raised areas after they flipped over to another area. Having extra thickness then in those areas, then being struck, caused the lack of detail in the area closer to the rim. I think this is not PMD but a real dramatic lamination error. That's my guess. Not an error expert, but the raised shapes look like they match the holes. Edited by TNG 03/14/2020 09:05 am Report this Post to the Staff
Keith67 Pillar of the Community United States 6612 Posts	Posted 03/14/2020 10:13 am Looks like a Retained Lamination Report this Post to the Staff
Aceinthehole1 New Member United States 13 Posts	Posted 03/15/2020 01:07 am Thanks everyone! Keith, images of retained lamination error look really similar to what I am seeing. It is very severe compared to most of the samples I have seen, so I think it is worth hanging on to. Report this Post to the Staff
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