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 Posted 03/09/2020  7:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Smilingstorm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have one. Although I'm sure it's not real I'd like to know for sure.

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 Posted 03/09/2020  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please post the photo straight up and down and make sure that the coin is taken at 90 degrees from the lens. Your photo out of whack and looks like kind of an oval, not round.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just send it to ICCS for about 20 bucks you have either a fake or 300 k
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 Posted 03/09/2020  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not in the right place for the recognized 1936 dot.
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I'm not a Canadian coin expert, but I did read up a little about the 1936 extra dot and there are only 3 known examples and all 3 are currently sold. So the chances of you finding another especially in uncirculated condition are ZERO. So if you think you found one, you are incorrect. If you don't believe me, please have it graded (by NGC or PGCS) and if it comes back as an authentic 1936 DOT, I will be wrong. But sadly I won't, but you will out of the grading fee.
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 Posted 03/10/2020  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We now have 3 different posters in the same thread with the same type of coin.
Should they not be split into there own threads?
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These replies were split into their own topic for the proper attention.
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 Posted 03/10/2020  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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but I did read up a little about the 1936 extra dot and there are only 3 known examples and all 3 are currently sold. So the chances of you finding another especially in uncirculated condition are ZERO


Although I agree the dot is in the wrong location an looks like a possible fake, to my understanding more than 3 were struck, but only 3 examples are rumored to have "survived" so there could very well be another example tucked away in hiding somewhere. But I doubt this is one of them if that were the case.
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 Posted 03/10/2020  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a specimen set donated to the BOC museum about a year or so by the former mint master's family, unknown to anyone until then, so the rumours of this coin being a custom made unit are probably true
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 Posted 03/10/2020  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the longest time that is what I assumed, the 3 that are known were custom made and if that were the case then I don't see why they should catch any sort of premium other than a few hundred maximum. To me that just looks like a way of taking advantage of collectors with the outrageous price tag, if only those 3 were struck on purpose, then can the really be classified as "Rare".... To me "RARE" is the label you put on something that was once known to have many but is one of the last to survive. If the 1936 DOT is custom and deliberately made for only 3 examples, then this does not classify as rare in my books, but more unique if anything. So my interest in the 1936 DOT penny is really non existent, as I don't look for deliberately fabricated errors/varieties that were made with "profit" from collectors in mind as you would be looking for something that does not exist and is a waste of time because the only 3 known are accounted for and spoken for.

But I did read a few articles stating that more than 3 were minted, and only 3 were known to have survived, given the fact that no other examples have been found (besides the obvious fakes) I'm in the same boat as john100, most likely custom made and only examples known for that exact reason.

So all in all, I don't look at the 1936 dot as rare, I look at it as a unique deliberate 3 of a kind, but nothing more and I would never pay the asking price for one even if I were a millionaire. This is just my humble opinion.
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Here's a photo of the 1936 specimen set from the BOC museum; you can just make out the dot on the 1c...

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 Posted 03/10/2020  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The market place determines value, when the 36 dot or the 1911 dollar, in lesser value the 67 double struck dollars are all recognized by major publications so when they come to auction they command their market values. If the 36 dot was only a die chip and not originally owned by Mr. Pittman it would probably be worth 100 bucks.
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