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What's The Best Way To Become Educated On Ancient Greek And Roman Coins?

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Dear Archaeologists
I was looking at Heritage Auction photos when I came across a coin I had to buy. I had never really even thought about ancient coins before, but the guy on the front looked like an escaped lunatic. In high relief. $90 (including premium) and a few days later he came in today's mail. It's really awesome.
After seeing this coin and pictures of many others I found desirable, I wanted to gain a reasonable level of knowledge about ancient coins rather than relying solely on impulse. I bought 2015 edition of the Whitman Greek and Roman coin handbook, and found it long on pictures and short on informative text. I have had similar problems finding other numismatic literature. Once, hoping I had ordered a comprehensive book about American gold coins so that I would be informed before buying, I ended up with a book of color photos of everything in the Smithsonian Collection which taught me almost nothing, except that over the years those lovely coins had kept their youthful beauty through regular cleanings.
So, where to begin? I welcome all suggestions.
By the way, I can't share a picture on my iPad, if you are interested, it is NGC 5743740-010. It is a Bosporus Panticapaeum something or other AE19 with a bearded Pan on the front, and the forepart of a griffin and a sturgeon on the back. To some of you, I am sure it is as simple as a Lincoln Cent, but it's all Greek to me (sorry).
Thanks for your thoughts.
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By the way, I can't share a picture on my iPad, if you are interested, it is NGC 5743740-010.


Nice one. Here:

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You can start here in the sticky section labelled Books, downloads, and websites, there you will find information of all type of ancient coinage. I wrote a book a few years a on general guide to ancient coins. Here is a link to it.
https://www.coincommunity.com/ancie...%20Guide.pdf You might find it useful.
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Echizento
Thanks! That's more than I could hope for!
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bearded Pan = escaped lunatic

Not sure that you are too far off from how he was portrayed in Greek mythology.
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echizento that is an amazing book.. thank you very much!
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I went to the local public library and read all I could about ancient Greek and Roman cultures history, with a preference for books that a young teenager would be happy to read.

I then went to my local coin shop and asked for advice on what would be the best introductory books to read that are specific to ancient coins. I went to my State Library and took out a few of those to read.

I then bought second hand books by authors such as David Sear:
Greek coins and their Values, and
Roman Coins and their Values, and
some very good books on ancient coin forgery, in order to educate myself on how to pick fake coins. With education from a professional specialist ancient coin dealer, with whom I had developed a friendship, I bought a range of fake ancient coins, also with the intention of educating myself on how to identify fake ancient coins.

All of this process took about 5 years, and along the way, I started buying a few ancient coins.
I have to admit, my first ancient Greek coin was my avatar coin, but that came from one of the World's most respected coin ancient dealers at the time:
Spinks London, waaay back in 1978.

My first Roman coin was a silver denarius of Antoninus Pius, also a long time ago, in 1966. My first purchase of ancient coin book (by David Sear), was also purchased in that year.

I also feel very privileged to have the ready support and advice of perhaps Australia's leading authority on ancient coins, who has access to one of the biggest specialist coin libraries in the World.
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Thanks for referring me to your book. It's a great start on coinage, and the historical survey and the maps are a very great help. I'm glad I kept my college Greek history textbook. I think I will find it very useful.
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Over here in Moscow, Panticapaeum AEs are filling the bargain bins, but they're in way worse quality, and almost nobody is buying them - and we certainly don't put them in slabs!

I'm not actually a fan of Pantikapaion (as I would have spelled it) coinage, but mostly only because there's so many subtypes of those coins with all kinds of designs, and it's so easy to get confused.
...Well, that, and they tend to be in horrible condition (I suspect metal detecting finds from recently occupied Crimea).
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I wrote a book a few years a on general guide to ancient coins.

@echizento: Wow. That is a lot of work put into that book. Certainly impressive!
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I'm not a fan of slabbed coins, but when first starting out (especially on expensive coins) it's the way to go. My advice, read past threads on this forum and others. Educate yourself, it may take awhile, but you will become comfortable in your purchases. Also, you may want to pick a specific era or civilization in order to become more knowledgeable on what to look for.


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... the guy on the front looked like an escaped lunatic.


Funny that's what attracted me to this one:

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C. VIBIUS C.F. CN. PANSA CAETRONIANUS. Denarius (48 BC). Rome.
Obv: PANSA.
Mask of Pan right.
Rev: C VIBIVS C F CN IOVIS AXVR.
Jupiter seated left on throne, holding patera and sceptre.



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Jan1may
That's exactly the kind of information I need. I don't know the cheapies from the rarities.
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There has been a glut of coins of Panticapaeum and other Crimean types in the market these last few years. Curious that.

On a lighter note, many classic references on ancient coins, the British Museum Catalogues for example, are freely available online as pdf or ebook downloads at sites like books.google.com, archive.org and hathitrust.org.
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