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PCGS Now Recognizing Canada 1967 Doubled Die Obverse Cent

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PCGS - Notice anything special about this coin? At first glance you may not. This doubled die exhibits pivoted hub doubling, which most people require magnification to see. First noted in 1977, an example of this doubled die variety was recently submitted to PCGS, noted as the first submitted requesting this attribution.

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Collecting variety coins has been a long popular past time for those who pursue Canadian coinage. Reference guides such as Charlton have grown to include even minimal varieties for Canadian coinage. However, there are several significant varieties for Canadian coinage that don't get referenced regularly and prove to be sometimes more significant than other listed pieces.

The Canada 1967 One-Cent coin is a circulating commemorative issue made for the centennial of Canada's confederation in 1967, during which all circulation issue coinage featured a commemorative animal design and 1867-1967 dual dating. It would be discovered in the 1970s that some of these coins feature a moderate doubled die variety on the obverse, noticed most prominently in the lettering "D • G • REGINA." This doubled die exhibits pivoted hub doubling, which most people require magnification to see. But for Canadian coinage, where true doubled dies are seemingly scarce, it is significant.

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Ken Potter writes that the discovery of this variety is credited to Robert Wilharm, who found it in 1977. Potter went on to publish it in his files and note that he got an example from an auction win from John Wexler's auction. An example of this doubled die variety recently was submitted to PCGS and was noted as the first submitted and requesting this variety attribution. The variety was quickly added to the PCGS recognized variety list and given its own spec number.

It is exciting that, after decades of neglect, this variety has seemed to be rediscovered and is starting to be appreciated. It is also exciting to know that new (and new-to-us) varieties still exist, waiting to be discovered and rediscovered on coins from around the world.
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Yes, that is my coin.

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I just returned from 2 week trip to Moose Jaw Saskatchewan my home town, while there I stayed at the Wakamow Heights bed and breakfast very nice old mansion with Victorian furniture and great breakfasts every morning. While staying there the owner brought out some of the collection they had been hording I didn't find a whole lot in the Vicky's they had but they had one of these 1967 D/D obverse in AU condition I put it in a 2x2 for them and told them it was a sought after variety and to keep it in a safe place, that is the first one I've found in change or anyone's collection.

Congratulation Roger nice catch
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This makes me very happy to see, I know if anyone could get it attributed, it would be Roger, and again congratulations!

There has been a lot of speculations regarding the 1967 DDO that can now be laid to rest.

I have been fortunate to find 3 examples of this DDO while searching a hoard of bank rolls as well
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Now part of the PCGS set registry.
https://www.PCGS.com/setregistry/ca...position/382
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What is the approximate value of this error?
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Maybe time ( Since we have lots of it these days ) to crack all those bank rolls
I have laying around from 67 . Might get lucky !
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What is the approximate value of this error?


Tough to say, not a whole lot have changed hands. I have sold a few in EF to AU grades on ebay earlier this year for about $25 each. I have a couple BU examples down at PCGS now, but those will be spoken for in trades with friends.

I would think an attractive MS-64 Red should garner at least $100... but take that with a grain of salt, because the price will only stabilize once a reasonable population has been found.


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Maybe time ( Since we have lots of it these days ) to crack all those bank rolls I have laying around from 67 . Might get lucky !


I have cracked over 100 1967 rolls and opened a sealed 1967 mint bag in the past year, and only found 4 mint state examples.
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Then there is hope !
About 30 wrapped rolls to search .
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Thanks for info on value - I recently bought one on ebay
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Very nice to see. I do however remember seeing this effect on 1966 and 1971 Canadian cents.....sorry, no photos.
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I sold one of my lesser grade circulated examples in EF-40 for $10.00 on ebay a couple of months ago for some research I was doing, lots of views, and sold surprisingly quick for the grade.
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