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I picked up a few more Queen Victoria pieces today. This farthing still has some luster and red color on it which doesn't come through in the scan.  
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I really like the color! This is my favorite bust style for Victoria too.  Take a look at the first A in BRITANNIAR--is that an inverted V, or broken punch?  I mention this because there are quite a few Canadian varieties minted at Heaton where an inverted V was substituted for a normal A punch on legends during this period. And these particular A/V varieties command nice premiums.  Update: I've done a quick comparison resample from your pics to illustrate what I'm seeing. It tentatively looks like an A/V to my eyes.  Edited by KurtS
10/26/2008 2:48 pm
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It looks like an A/V to me as well. Wow, KurtS, thanks for pointing that out!  Here is an 1861 penny that I bought today at the Westford Coin show.   |
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Very nice details on the 1861! aUNC perhaps?
I'm glad the Farthing A/V confirms in hand. I have a habit of looking for those for Canada, although I'm unsure how common they are for UK coinage.
I did a quick search for the variety, but did not find any listings.
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The 1861 penny was marked AU50. I can agree with that.
It was also identified as a variety:
"15 leaves [showing in the laurel wreath] without obverse and reverse signs."
I need to get specialized book for the Victorian pennies. My Coincraft does not discuss the 15 leaf variety.
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10/26/2008 10:15 pm
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The final Victoria I bought at the coin show is this 1841 penny.   |
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I really like that 1841 1d. Beautiful!
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Thanks JAB and AuldFartte! Quote:
Nice... Is that aUNC? :O The dealer had written MS63 on the 2x2 the 1841 was in. I would say AU58 slider. |
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Very nice 1841 penny! I'm hardly an expert on UK grading, but that looks very close to MS--unless that's minor wear on Britannia |
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When I got home from work I looked at the 1841 carefully some more. (I absentmindedly left it on the scanner last night and I was nervous about it all day.  What if my wife or daughter picks it up or knocks it on the floor? The horror!  Not that they would.) In hand I really can't see any rub at all on Britannia. If there is some at the knee or breast area it is very tiny. There is plenty of luster and some red color remaining, and there are very few marks on it too. So I could go along with MS63. It is large impressive penny (35mm)! |
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Very nice coins Tom - re. the inverted V's, I've just found the variety in Collectors' Coins GB for the dates 1953, 50 and 41!
It has the '53 down as worth 110 GBP in VF..
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10/28/2008 04:52 am
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It has the '53 down as worth 110 GBP in VF Uh... Wow. Your coin is a tad higher than VF! Excellent! Congratulations again!  |
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Uh...Wow. Your coin is a tad higher than VF! Excellent!
Congratulations again! What makes you think so - I am not saying it isn't a great specimen, but this is a British book and there are significant scratches to the reverse. Also, I'm not sure I'd trust the book either so I could not be sure about its value at all. How much was paid?! |
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Oh, I thought you were just providing a value--I'm not disputing your grade here. Since I didn't see any real signs of circ. wear on the hair high points or Britannia, and the presence of traces of mint luster suggest EF+ to me--or perhaps aEF with those marks in field? Then again, I can grade Canada or Aus coins accurately by their standards--not so for UK, so I defer to your grade. Edited by KurtS
10/28/2008 12:08 pm
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I don't think you can judge the level of wear to the high points in the hair by such a photograph, though it wasn't a bad photo. Also, I don't think lustre or having a lighter tone indicates EF as I've seen this on some VF coins before. And don't forget the knocks on the reverse. The obverse could be EF. Don't forget that to be UNC in the Brit system for a copper coin you need full mint lustre anyway, so the coins would be a gleaming brilliant coppery hue. I'd say that 1841 could be EF.
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10/28/2008 4:45 pm
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