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I bought this a while ago, but had not posted it yet. It is one of the finest surviving 1908 specimen cents. It resides in a PCGS holder at SP-64 Red, tied with two others for finest graded by PCGS. PCGS has always been quite tough on these matte specimens. It was also lightly lacquered at the Ottawa Mint, which they may have factored into a net grade.

The coin is actually much brighter red than shown in the photos. These photos courtesy of PCGS.

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Here is what ICCS called it several years ago.

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Beauty of a coin. That is a punishing grade drop. Is PCGS always like that with Laquered coins from Ottawa?
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Often yes. They do not like lacquer, but will usually grade them (and not body bag them) when mint applied on specimen coins. IMO the lacquer plus a bias against the matte specimens caused the grade drop. I own one other 1908 specimen cent, which went from ICCS SP-66 Red to PCGS SP-65 RB.

They are tough on 1911 specimen cents also.

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Absolutely stunning as always, the reverse especially !

For the 1908 set, there is a set graded by ICCS/PCGS who was recently sold by Heritage, all coins were ICCS Sp64/65 and all dowgraded, the cent ex Sp-65RD to PCGS Sp-detail ( Q. Color ) and the 50c ex Sp-65 to PCGS Sp-62. The eye appeal is not amazing but the downgrade is huge...

As far as I know, James Mossman wasn't like M. Cook, so I assume the coins were only removed from their ICCS flip to be graded at PCGS.
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I would guess the Mossman set is back in ICCS holders by now, but don't know that for sure. Yes, eye appeal is always part of the PCGS equation.
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As always, Rob, your coins are all stunning
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A beauty to be sure!
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Just beautiful, thanks!
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An excellent example Bosox. Thanks.
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A real beauty


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Very nice coin Rob, and your correct it is a nicer topic than what's happening around the World right now. Very nice and peaceful
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Very nice. I love the full detail of the specimen strikes, as the designer/engraver had intended.
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So many nice detail on these specimen coin. Congrat
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Easily one of the finest large cents I've seen. That's a great find and its a shame about the grade drop, but still something to be proud of.

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