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1946-D Lincoln Wheat Cent - Illusion Or Extra MM?

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I have this 1946 D LWC at about a VF-35 BN.

Looking at all MMs for RPMs and OMMs, because COVID... ;)

This looks, at lower magnification, like it has a full D north of the MM between the 9 and the 4, and an oversized S NE.
1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

Closer magnification, the extra D seems to go AWOL but a normal-sized S MM with a trumpet tail shows up NW, right next to the 9.
1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

Even closer magnification, the S seems to still be there NW of the D.
1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

There are no 1946 D&S listed to my knowledge. Does anyone else see what I see, and could it actually be a D&S?
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I think you might want to take a break and give your eyes a rest...then go back to it...I'm not seeing it...Sorry
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I am not seeing anything.
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Nothing in the areas you mention.
It could be Pareidolia on my part but I took your image and marked it up with red.

It is probably damage since this is a well-circulated coin but take a look at this area and tell us what you see or add clear closeups if you can. Thanks.
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I see it in the 1st photo,but I do not think it is a RPM.
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I was wondering if that diagonal line at the bottom of the real MM was something or not. Haven't gotten there yet - I'm fixated on those S images.

Here's a shot with the two S images I am imagining I am seeing... or not...

The NW S is MMS-004 and the NE S is MMS-007


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Time to rest your eyes for awhile. I do not see a RPM or a OMM.
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 Posted 04/12/2020  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing that at all.
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If it were an over mintmark, it would be raised, not incuse:
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Just a well placed contact mark.
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They are there... but they are not OMM.

This coin has PMD but I also see a lot of die damage. I see cracks, breaks, chips, clashes and possible counterclashes. I see what appears to be "liberty" on the right side of the coin, and I think the S I was wondering about is really an S from the die damage, clash or counterclash...
Here are a couple of uncropped pics, in case the cropping and resizing combined out of Irfanview reduced the resolution too much on the others.

1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?
1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

And as requested, new closeup of D focused as sharply as I can get. Looks like that line is a counterclash.

1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

Full obverse shot showing all sorts of clash/counterclash evidence.

1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?

The rev shows signs of rotated clash marks too.

1946-D-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent---Illusion-Or-Extra-MM?
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