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Valued Member
United States
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Hello Coin Community, I have seen a lot of wickedly strong Machine Doubled coins go on ebay for $200+. Personally, I think they are pretty cool and fun to collect. What are your opinions on Machine Doubled coins? Do you love or hate them? Do you even have strong feelings towards them? I wanna hear it all. Thanks, Ryan |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Machine Doubling not my area of specialty. Therefore not really my opinion here, but the question intrigued me, because there are so many threads initiated on this subject. Yes, I agree that they are cool and fun to collect, especially if you are CRH'ing, but I haven't done that for many years. On my research of other opinions, I have found that Machine Doubling is very common, and therefore does not add any significant rarity value premium to any coin that you may have come across. I do collect major error coins from around the World, including U.S. coins. (off metal strikes, patterns, wrong planchets, mules, very major off center strikes, piedforts, brokages, fully split planchets, major clip errors etc.), but it has taken me the major part of my life to build the collection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have found countless coins that have Machine Doubling. I can tell you that it is extremely common in the less severe versions of it, and doesn't carry a premium. Back about a year ago, I was easily fooled into thinking that Machine Doubling was a doubled die, as I did not see the difference. I certainly do enjoy finding extreme machine doubled coins, and I do keep them, but I don't think they would go for that much on ebay personally. I've been tricked by Machine Doubling so you could say I have a love hate relationship with it. Either way, it is still cool, but even the more severe versions don't have much of a premium. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I would be very surprised if any (ANY) machine doubled coins would actually sell for much over face, if that. Please search Bay SOLD listings and show us these "$200+" coins, I'd like to see them. I just don't see the market for them, unless there are that many gullible buyers out there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was thinking the exact same thing as merclover.
Two things, first off, you must be looking at what people have put them up for, rather than the SOLD section. And two, people sometimes are very gullible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Moderator
 United States
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Or maybe the inexperienced buyer *was* the inexperienced seller in this case.  "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Machine doubling? I like it--the more 'striking' the example, the better. Will I pay and extra dollar or two at a coin show for a nice example? Yes. Seven hundred dollars? No, likely not.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like the very dramatic MD thats across the profile and the date but would never buy one. That being said I have seen many MD coins sold up to around $50. Sometimes sold as a "Double Die" and some actually list it as Machine Doubling or Strike Doubling. Ive even sold some myself with the whole definition of MD and saying its NOT a variety  Here's one that sold for over $100. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-D-Lin...047675.l2557This date MD coin sells a lot This seller sells a lot of them and words them like this to confuse the inexperienced Edited by Kloccwork419
05/01/2020 08:39 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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How would you feel it you over paid for a coin? That is why I would never sell them. They are a face value damaged coin to me. I'm a variety purist. I've seen machine doubled coins sell for more than a variety coin. When they spend too much for Md, then the prices are cheaper for the real variety coins. I guess the old adage, "A fool and his money are soon parted." So Know what you buying before the purchase. Don't snipe an over valued coin thinking you are hitting the big time. You might end up with a gold plate cow pie:  If you buy something you get burned on, keep it. It will remind you not to do that again. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Can't imagine paying any kind of premium for a coin, in any grade, with Machine Doubling.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10635 Posts |
coop, absolutely, I am with you 100%! The ethical thing to do is to never sell them in the first place. It's amazing what some people spend money on, many are taken advantage of by selling something that isn't. I hope members of our community are not those among those shady sellers on ebay or anywhere else taking advantage of the uninformed. We help (or try to at least) newcomers by education found here within our pages. I wish we could reach more before they become a statistic. I am proud to be a member of our fine community!  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The sad part is that when the third party graders, grade the coins, they don't consider MD as a minus for the value of the coin. To a variety collector, they are as bad to us as a fingerprint. Undesirable. So look very closely if your buying a graded doubled die or RPM. Make sure you can live with their poor judgment on the coin your considering to purchase.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I strongly suspect most of the ones selling for those prices on ebay are being bought by people who think they're buying a doubled die, which is pretty unscrupulous. I don't think even the most extreme example would be worth more than a few dollars to most serious/informed collectors. |
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