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Below are two 2004 One Pound coins I own. One on the left is definitely genuine and a good strike to my opinion. How about the one on the right? It's dullish in colour, but details seem to be genuine, yet weakly, perhaps very weakly struck. Edge motif is a match with the sharp/genuine one, yet its weakly struck too. Both weight the same. I have handled more than 50 seperate fake round pound coins, and this one one the right doesn't give me the obvious fake feeling. Yet weakness of strike and dullish colour makes me suspicious. Any opinions on experts?   |
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I'm not sure. The colour of £1 coins in circulation did vary quite a bit. When the 'round pounds' were in circulation I saved every obvious forgery I found, but several times I remember getting one and not being sure whether it was a forgery or not - and usually spending it! Forgeries of the bridge coins were always the hardest to spot as there was no edge lettering (something which often gave away fakes!) and also by the 21st century the forgers' techniques had improved as they'd had longer to practise their craft!
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05/10/2020 1:22 pm
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I'll check the edge motif sometime tomorrow to be sure how it looks like. If the edge motif is weakly struck, then chances are this coin can be a forgery, since edge motif/inscription is applied seperately than the minting of the coin. My logic says that both the edge and the strike cannot be weak at the same time. Still, if this is a forgery then it has to be one of the good ones. Elizabeth's effigy is wuite detailed at hand, much like the specimen on the left.
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definitely a forgery - a good one though.
I miss those old pounds - the forgeries were fun to spot.
Now I have to make do with fake £2's (and there are far fewer!)
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NumisRob and andyg, thank you guys. I'll label that one as 'very potentially forgery". I feel like I have invented a term. Haha.
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05/16/2020 12:28 pm
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andyg : but I was enjoying my newly invented term. :-) yes. It's probably the best fake pound coin I own. pAS = practically as struck. :-)
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Hi molydeii and andyg. Nice to see some other people still interested in this. What you have chanced upon in your first reply molydeii is that there were two independent makes of fake Bridges that became sometimes hard to tell apart after ageing. They used similar methods to make particularly lifelike fakes. In the database FORTH5 is the suspected ECM make and FORTH12 is 'Magic Motto-esque'. The database doesn't yet recognise 'Magic Motto-esque' as distinct. It would help to see a close-up of both gaps between the pathways on the edge to give you my opinion. Regards.
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07/18/2020 07:31 am
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PS. From what I can see, yours seems most likely to be akin to FORTH4 and FORTH14. Note overall soft detail, dropped out larynx area and initials reduced to B on yours. This make also often had grainy metal and solid rims to the faces. Both the other two makes tended to have rims on the thin side, often with the obverse dots too close to the rim in one direction or merging into it. FORTH4 and FORTH14 are actually the same make as FORTH2, based on matching incuse pathways. The metal was often very realistic in colour, though lacking the polish of the real thing.
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07/19/2020 7:31 pm
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Moralclimate: thank you! It appears like a non circulated fake. I bought that along with the genuine one from a local dealer more than a decade ago. I remember paying slightly above face value. As far as fake round pounds go, it's nice to own an uncirculated one. Back in the day, I thought it's a weak strike so I put it inside a nice round capsule. I'll still keep it that way.
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