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Cleaned Or Just Unusual Toning? (1876 20 Cents)

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Hello all,
I'm agonizing over a shiny thing once again: specifically wondering if this has been cleaned or otherwise messed with or whether this is just an unusual toning pattern. Off the way the lettering stands out... The detail in the obverse is hard to find in this particular year in my experience at least, It's not cheap but it's not insanely expensive either.

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 Posted 05/11/2020  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
my gut says dipped long ago, and retoned.. rim dings, some scratches, but still a decent coin..
i am at close to ef40.
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 Posted 05/11/2020  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think those little scratches are hairlines from a harsh cleaning but...well...thinking hard here.
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 Posted 05/11/2020  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me. I don't see any evidence of a cleaning, unless it was long ago. VF30 (maybe ef40 on a good day)
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 Posted 05/11/2020  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look cleaned (polished) to me but may have been dipped previously like Silverwolf mentioned and has re-toned unevenly
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EF40
Unusual toning IMO, who knows how it's been stored over the last century and a half.
Why agonize?
If you are not comfortable don't buy it.
Collecting should be enjoyable.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 05/12/2020  05:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@DBM - I agree! It's all about what you enjoy. There was a self-help book I once saw (but didn't read) called "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff". I'm the opposite - more of a "Let's Lose it Over Minutiae" type....
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 Posted 05/12/2020  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin! Love the toning! EF-40 minimum all day long.
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EF40 for me also.
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I'm the opposite - more of a "Let's Lose it Over Minutiae" type....


I am the same way with small cents, hate those black "carbon spots" on red coins. I almost prefer a lustrous brown coin sometimes...
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EF40+ all day!

Beautiful coin... how much IS it?
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It's all about what you enjoy. There was a self-help book I once saw (but didn't read) called "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff".


Silver101, I hear the sequel was pretty good, too: "It's All Small Stuff."

Lovely coin...seems to be aspiring to tfred's avatar from New Brunswick. I like it at nEF, for sure.

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 Posted 05/14/2020  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add river4449 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Absolutely beautiful. I don't see any signs of a cleaning. Looks to be AU in my opinion, but toning makes it hard to tell. Its a good strike anyways!
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 Posted 05/15/2020  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't look cleaned to me either.

Maybe a Circulation Cameo?
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 Posted 05/22/2020  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much everyone - very helpful input as always. I talked the guy down a little ($240 USD) and it's now on it's way. Hope you're all staying well out there!
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