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1960-D LMC Large Date ICG MS-67RD

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I am wondering if I should have this regraded by PCGS. Are they more reputable than ICG? I don't want it to be downgraded though. What are your opinions?
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Much larger pics of both sides, please.



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Looks pretty strong I think it would have a good shot at PCGS or NGC MS-67. Always tough to assess through plastic but surfaces are wonderful on it. What you can do is submit a crossover with a minimum of 67. If it doesn't make that, they'll return it to you in the original holder.
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ICG is not a trusted slabber,IMHO. I do not think it grades MS67,weak or damage on the bottom steps for one thing. I would not send to NGC-PCGS-ANACS.
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I don't think the lack of full steps, or die issues on the steps, would preclude it from MS-67. There are whole years where you can't find any full step LMC's, and the designation isn't particularly meaningful except to the extent that coins which exhibit full steps might command a very slight price premium.
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I think you better leave as is . Every part of the building is a nice strike accept for the steps . ICG I heard has been pretty good at grading lately , if they want to call it a 67RD so be it .
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IGC is good at grading Lincolns, I own a few of their slabs. It's not near valuable enough to be worth crossing IMO. It's just fine in that IGC slab.
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The PCGS site values the ms67rd at $475
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Looks like a 66 to me. I've sent some nice 1961-D's in my time that I swear are 67's, usually come back 66 or 66+. PCGS likes to protect their pops.
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yeah it's a slam dunk at 66 but once you get to 67 and 68 grades it becomes rather impossible from photos, and requires an expert grader with a loupe and perfect lighting.
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I'm seeing MS66. Nice coin.
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I can't tell if those marks are on the coin or the slab. If they're on the coin, you should probably leave it as is.

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One thing to remember is if you submit it for a conversion, and specify a minimum grade, they will leave it in the original holder if it doesn't meet the desired grade. So in this case you would request a conversion at 67 or higher and, worst case, you're just out grading fees and still have your ICG slabbed coin.
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