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MD-Or-DD?
MD-Or-DD?
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A case of extreme Mechanical Doubling.
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Actually, a case of both. The LIBE of LIBERTY does show notching and nice division lines.

May I ask what year it is?

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As a general rule, serif separation is evidence of DD, but in this case it's very slight and may just be an extreme MD like TreasHunt stated.
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You have a really good eye for finding these
Obviously, you found something here.
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I'm thinking its a 1983 or thereabouts.
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This coin is yet another example of a normal coin photographed under dual lighting conditions which gives the false impression of doubling. There is no doubling on that coin. Bills has the approximate date correct, either 1982 or 1983. By 1984 the flat bevel on the tops of the letters was more apparent.
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I would think the OP to have examined it under a loupe and noticed doubling before going to photography. Most people don't go photographing random parts of common pennies under high magnification just for the heck of it.
The light source seems to be coming from only one direction.

By the way, what is the "flat bevel" on top of the letters that you speak of? I'm not privy to many of these bits of knowledge.
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yes its 83 and as far as lighting I'm using a microscope camera in a dark rook with just the computer on to look at them the camera does have its own light source maybe thats the problem .

thanks
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Hi Chuck,
This lighting issue is fascinating. This means that even more care has to be taken when anyone goes to an auction site. Even with a fairly good closeup, a coin can appear to be something it's not.

I have never seen this before when I am taking shots of coins. Thanks for pointing this out.

It means even more that I can't give a cut and dry opinion on any coin seen in a picture.

It really is fascinating.

Thanks,
Bill

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Hey, I tried playing around with a pair of desk lamps and a flash, and you are absolutely right about the mirage. The picture looks so deceptively real... to the untrained eye. Do you often find these mistakes on ebay and the like?
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