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New Member
United States
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How often do major grading companies like PCGS or NGC put a cleaned coin in a straight grade holder? Is this common especially with tough date Morgan dollars? Thanks I'm advance for input and insight.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Depends on the grade and the severity of the cleaning. If an AU coin has been lightly wiped, my experience is it will clean grade most of the time. If a BU coin has been dipped, it will always clean grade. If a BU coin has been wiped, it will almost always get detailed because there is no way to excuse away the marks. If a circulated coin has been dipped, it will almost always get detailed because the color can't be explained. After a retoning, most circulated coins will clean grade assuming the color looks natural.
Harshly cleaned coins will almost always get detailed. An exception is old U.S. silver, pre 1840. I've seen a lot of really badly cleaned coins in straight holders.
Edited by fenton 06/06/2020 08:01 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I would say It all depends on who's doing the grading at any one time . Not talking about what TPG but the actual people grading the coin . Their mood that day ,tired, headache ,or just discussed with their job . Also as fenton pointed out it depends how badly the coin was cleaned or , cleaned a long time ago toned back nicely and market acceptable . 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
857 Posts |
Let's just say the rarer the coin, the more eager they are to straight grade.
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New Member
 United States
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Thanks for the insight. I have been working on a complete date and mint mark set of Morgan's and I have to settle for AU grades in some of the mints and years. Overall, I feel like they have nice eye appeal, but I am critical on grading and have some AU-53 coins to me look cleaned but to PCGS and others they are fine.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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also one thing with Morgans to keep in mind is the luster from the mint can vary from dull to Greasy to Satin to proof like
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm with fenton on this, couldn't have said it better. Also Jason.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with @fenton's thorough analysis and the other upthread comments.
I'll add that it also depends on the series, and comparative availability of original high grade examples. The minnows - silver trimes and fish scales - commonly get a pass unless the cleaning is harsh.
Larger coins with noticeable fields, such as quarters, halves, and dollars, don't get that much leeway.
More recent series with high survivorship of original high grade examples (such as almost all 20th Century half dollars) are regularly detailed with almost any cleaning.
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