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1989 Lincoln Memorial Cent - What Is Or Caused This ?

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this is 1989 penny straight out of a obw so it uncirculated ?
i thought it was a scratch but it its not it's in the coin
thanks
colleen

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 Posted 11/11/2008  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 909records to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i was just looking through a book and can this be a incomplete clip?
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 Posted 11/11/2008  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a die crack, that has just about reached the die break stage. The possibility is that after a few more strikes( No way to tell how many) that section of the die would break away striking coins with a raised blob like called a Cud.

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Bill

PS: please spell out what you mean when you use initials that are not commonly encountered. Somebody will ask what an obw is some of us know that is intended to mean "Original Bank Wrapped" roll but many will not be familiar with those initials.
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maybe we need to have a facts sheet with all the abbreviations for new members like OBW,OGP,LMC,LWC,DDR,DDO and such, even though most collectors know what the abbreviations mean I guess some of the newer collectors may not. I doubt it would really do any good because most people wouldn't know the link to the abbreviations were there and would probably just ask what it meant anyway but we could at least provide a link to answer that question and they may learn what other abbreviations mean also
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 Posted 11/11/2008  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is a explanation of the varieties of errors. Coin World http://www.coinworld.com/newcollect...striking.asp

And the best one for beginners from there site is this one:

Machine, mechanical, Strike Doubling: A form of doubling, this is one of the two most common types of Mint errors. Some do not consider it an error, but believe it to be a form of Mint-caused damage.


Mechanical Doubling
Most, however, believe it a true form of error coin. The cause is a looseness of the die or other parts in the press which causes the die to twist as it comes in contact with the surface of the newly struck coin. In twisting, the die drags the metal of the raised designs to one side, creating the doubled image. The doubling is flat, like a shelf.

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11/11/2008 1:17 pm
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OK no problem
thanks for info
is it worth keeping?
colleen
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It looks possibly like a Retained Cud.
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Why not use the CC glossary?

http://www.coincommunity.com/dictionary/
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 Posted 11/11/2008  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris1222nascar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it the whole roll of coins or just one coin?
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condor:
Retained Cud?
I can't disagree, but?
but it probably became a Cud in the nest few strikes.
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its one coin so far I have several rolls that I got at one time and that one was on the end of the roll or the begining of the roll
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I agree that it is probably a Retained Cud but I would still like to see the entire obverse just to be sure.
If it is a Retained Cud, it is certainly a keeper- much better than a regular die crack but not quite as nice as a full Cud.
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 Posted 11/11/2008  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would keep it! Why not
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Yep, the full picture confirms it for me- retained cud- nice find
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I agree, a very nice Retained Cud...at least a $10 coin!
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