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Post #1: Please Help Identify Ancient Indian Copper Coin, 2.7g

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This appears to be an ancient Indian coin to me. There is a mounted horseman on the obverse and script on reverse. It weighs 2.7g and is approx. 18mm in diameter. Any identification help would be greatly appreciated. If possible, directions to a relevant catalogue or catalogue # would be most appreciated.
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 Posted 07/06/2020  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty sure Seljuks of Rum, Kaykhusraw I:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vc...657/amp.aspx

Not many figural Islamic coins, so it's not as hard to hunt those down!
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Thank you for the identification!
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It's similar to the Kaykhusraw coin but it's actually an extremely rare fals of Malikshah II ibn Qilij Arslan. Note the 2nd figure in the field behind the horseman. The reverse reads: Abu'l-Fateh / Malikshah bin / Qilij Arslan. Album 1195 (RRR). Lucky you!
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Thank you for the identification. From that I think the catalogue # is A-1195 from what I found on acs coin search. I'm confused as to why I cannot find mention of a Malikshah ii on Wikipedia as ruling the Rum Sultanate. Do you have any historical context on Malikshah's reign? And also how much do you think this coin is actually worth, I see some similar types selling for $400+, are these inflated or am I missing something. I literally paid around $4 for this coin, so if it is really worth that much I am pretty hyped!
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 Posted 07/06/2020  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This Malik Shah was a local prince. Note that the title Sultan does not appear on the coin. According to Album, "Several of the sons of Qilij Arslan II received the right to produce coinage in their own names within their appanages". If you don't have a copy of Album's Checklist, he recently made it available as a free pdf download at his website stevealbum.com. Regarding value, I would expect you'd need to spend at least $100 to replace it. $400 seems optimistic. Keep an eye on the little green spots.
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Thank you so much for the information, should I do anything about the green spots?
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 Posted 07/06/2020  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would just watch the spots for now. Keep the coin away from humidity. If you see the spots growing, you may need to treat the coin for bronze disease. It has been discussed here many times I think.
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