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Is This A Genuine Japan Coin?

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 Posted 11/15/2008  11:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good day, Sir/Madam, may you help me identify whether this coin is genuine or not.

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 Posted 11/16/2008  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, can't really tell by the picture.

If you have another coin, balance the yen on your fingertip and hit it with another coin. If the coin rings for 5 seconds or more, then it's real.

Or, use a magnet first. If it sticks, then it's steel.

Anyways, so far, it has most details that fake yen coins don't have, such as the veins on the leaves.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On second look, the "yen" character is looking a bit weak, while the details around it are strong.

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 Posted 11/16/2008  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I don't like the appearance of it. If it's magnetic, you know it's not genuine.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to say this looks like a copy, the style of the lettering on the words "ONE YEN" is different than what is seen on the real coins.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "ONE YEN" font looks like those found on the Chinese dragon dollars. Plus the 900 looks bad.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to magnet it and it didn't stick. I also tried to hit it with another coin and it sounded like a silver ring. But the ring didn't last for 5 seconds. Could it be that this coin is a forgery of the past? Wd1040, gxseries, echizento, hc8604, Sirs, thank you for your most immediate reply.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if you have another silver coin of almost he same size and the ring sounds like silver, then most likely it's real

And no problems, that's what the forums are here for
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 Posted 11/17/2008  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even silver plating it will make it sound silver, although not as well as an actual silver coin.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Even silver plating it will make it sound silver, although not as well as an actual silver coin.


Oh, really? I never knew that. Thanks!

Anyways, I'm still looking at the characters. They are really weak compared to the leaves and flowers. The best thing to do after all is just to take it to a scale.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that is true... maybe another should make sure of that?
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 Posted 11/18/2008  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried and the weight is 26.55 grams. Could it be that forgery of coins in Japan had been existing during those times, Sirs?
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 Posted 11/18/2008  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible that it is a contemporary counterfeit. One question I have for you is where did you get this coin?
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 Posted 11/18/2008  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is my friends coin; he bought it from a coin dealer here. He requested me to find whether or not it is genuine as he has doubts too. Thank you, Sir, Archraz. I will tell my friend to return this coin and have his precious money back.
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 Posted 11/18/2008  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
augbauer- yes that might be for the best. This type of Japanese coin was counterfeited a lot back in the nineteenth century and is even more so today. In fact, this is one type of coin that is heavily targeted by Chinese counterfeiters.
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 Posted 11/19/2008  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an expert on these coins, but I do know what the ruling family seal should look like, and that looks wrong. The tips of the petals should be well curved without angular edges seen there--I don't think that would get minted; it would be a slight on the emperor.
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