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1958-D Clear DDO, RPM

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1958-D-Clear-DDO,-RPM
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1958-D-Clear-DDO,-RPM
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Sorry, looks more like Machine Doubling to me.
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What exactly is Machine Doubling what's the difference between fat and double die an RPM
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Click on " Machine Doubling"
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Thank you.... So is Machine Doubling not rare or increase value like a double die? Is this coin still valuable?
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Difficult to set a price/value on education
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to the CCF!
Generally, Machine Doubling doesn't help to increase a coin's grade. Here though, the condition of your LWC is pretty good on the other hand. That might bring the coin to a little premium, but not by much as this is the last year of the Wheat cent
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Well bottom feeders sell these on ebay for a premium to the unleary newbies.
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I'd never do that. I like to sleep at night. When they figure out they have been had, they come here and ask for us to explain what it is, and realize they have been took by a bottom feeder. How do you keep from having this happen to you? Ask questions here and take the time to know what you have/had/sold before you sell.
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Some people like MD coins if the spread area is very noticeable (seen with naked eye).

Like coop says, the coins should never be sold as a doubled die, but clearly labeled as machine or press doubling.

There is a whole market for the "poor man's" 1955, which is Machine Doubling. In my opinion that is on the edge of honest selling.

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There is a whole market for the "poor man's" 1955, which is Machine Doubling.

Don't mind if I correct you, but the poor man's die is an example of Die Deterioration Doubling.
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Most consider Machine Doubling as damage, and damage doesn't increase a coin's value.

Please don't photograph your computer screen. Direct photographs are better so we can help you more. Thanks.
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Hi there. I would have looked at it and thought the same thing. It's hard for newbies to distinguish the difference between the two sometimes. But as I was told from an awesome teacher there are lots of sites out there that can help learn the knowledge you need to be good at a hobby you enjoy doing. Actually I have learned more watching a you tube channel than I learned on here or reading and looking at pics and now it's not just searching throw coins to me it's a fun and exciting hobby that I enjoy doing. So just because we don't know the spotters or Mark's to look for to know the difference doesn't mean anything at all so don't let people here discourage you with their rude and unnecessary comments. Keep doing what you do discover and have fun doing it!!
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In a single roll of 1955 cents, I found 19 of them were the 'Poor man's so called doubled die.' Just an example of extreme die wear.
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Thank you all for the education. I really appreciate it. I will be asking for help in the future because I too want to be correct in my advertising or postings
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Keep posting and learning. MD vs DDD vs Doubled Die is tough.

If you goto a site like varitey vista or Wexler's doubled die and find a date the DOESN'T have any doubled die listed in a common and cheap date, then purchase a few circulated rolls of that coin, you can really learn how much circulation damage can look like doubling. That's what I am learning from my bag of 5000 wheat cents.

Sorry for the misinformation on the 1955's being MD. I have seen clear MD examples listed that way, so more shady selling practices we can all avoid.

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