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1964-D Lincoln Cent

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 Posted 11/16/2008  10:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JP324 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this a double crosslet or just damage?

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Thanks,jp324

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 Posted 11/16/2008  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting pic. Looking forward to the experts here in this field for an opinion.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm by far an expert but it looks like die damage. Die chip?
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What's a double "Crosslet"? and if so, is it of any premium value on a coin?
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I've seen that before. Several of them were listed at one time, but the one that has the bar under the L on LIBERTY and the bar above the 4 crosslet would be the most interesting. That would show a slight rotation of the hubbings of the die. So you might check with my example I found.
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So far it hasn't been listed as far a I know. But it shows what to watch for.

I just checked in coppercoins book: " Looking through Lincoln Cents Page 215 shows an image of one and it calls it minor doubling. But with the combination of the above the 4 and the bar under the L they would be the better ones to save. Nice find, it shows that you are apying attention to differences of devices while you are searching.
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Hey coop, here's my pic of "lib". I don't have the bar under the "L" like yours. I guess I'll have to keep looking. Thanks for the info.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a double, but........
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Okay, here's a case of 'it is' but 'it isn't'.

This is a doubled die, but they are so common and so minor, nobody lists them as collectible. Delma K. Romines tried listing all of them back in the 1980s and the list grew to nearly a hundred different dies. Nobody was really interested in spending a premium to try collecting what amounts to nothing much, so James Wiles delisted most of them in part due to lack of marker photos and good identification information, but also to 'clean up' the files a bit and focus on the truly scarce coins that should have a catalog number and a premium value associated with them.

Bottom line - this is a 'too minor to bother with' doubled die.

Those that have the bar under the L along with the crosslet doubling are a different story, as are the ones that have a stronger crosslet doubling along with some doubling in TRUST. They have more than one pick-up-point (place with doubling) so they are more collectible, more valuable, and easier to identify.
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