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G'Day all I was just looking through my slabbed coins and came across this its a 1878 S AU 58 VAM 79 this has the obverse of a VAM 9 (79 II 7)with the broken B and star,doubled LIBERTY (with a die scratch through the L and on the eye but not listed)the reverse of B2aj has polish lines where the die gouge was in the wing 1 doubled arrow point and no broken r oh I may be wrong about the reverse but that's what I've pined it down to      and some keys on the reverse   well I'm bushed hope you like this VAM as I find the B unusual regards Harry Edited by nuggethill
11/19/2008 3:07 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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wow I will have to look into that because I never heard of a 1878-S VAM-79 but have heard of a B-1 Reverse 1878-P VAM-79 which is a HOT-50 coin. I will look up VAM-79 when I get back from picking up my son if no one has already done so
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1878-S VAM-79 Doubled LIBERTY, Broken B, Engraved Wing Feather 79 II 7 · B2aj (Doubled LIBERTY, Broken B, Engraved Wing Feather) (184) I-2 R-4 Obverse II 7- Same die as for VAM 9 but not concave. |
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1878-S VAM-9 Doubled LIBERTY Left, Broken B, Engraved Wing Feather
9(revised) II 7 · B2l (Doubled LIBERTY Left, Broken B, Engraved Wing Feather) (184) I-2 R-4
Obverse II 7- LIBERTY slightly doubled to left and also right on IB-R-Y. Die flakes at top of E-P with B slightly doubled at top right inside of lower loop and bottom crossbar broken. Point on fourth right star broken.
Reverse B2l- Feather engraved between eagle's right wing and leg. R in Trust broken. Tiny die chip on second outer bottom feather of eagle's right wing.
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Now this is an interesting one. Got to admit I've never seen one with that many polishing lines in the engraved wing area. How about some close ups of the eye and some of the legend letters. Also Liberty.
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Is this possible that it could be an eds of this VAM? No broken R? |
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Early die states change with each VAM number assigned. Full R would have an EDS and a LDS. Partial broken R would have an EDS and LDS with a different VAM #. Repeats again for fully broken R, although the same die could have been used on all the coins. |
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G'Day all sorry I haven't posted as I've just arrived home from work O.K. the photo's I'll post will be the "r" in trust,the eye and also the "B" in LIBERTY as well as the tail-feathers just for interest,I am sure this is a VAM 79 but I've been wrong before      full LIBERTY and legend letters will follow regards Harry Edited by nuggethill
11/17/2008 3:58 pm
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O.K.LIBERTY first then the legend with the most interesting letters E P and I followed by the MM and close up         If you need more just call regards Harry |
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Harry, your right on with the reverse. I believe this to be a VAM 45 which reverse die was later used with the VAM 79. |
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 confermed by george you know your VAM's MorgansRmine regards Harry |
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MorgansRmine, in your words " Early die states change with each VAM number assigned. Full R would have an EDS and a LDS. Partial broken R would have an EDS and LDS with a different VAM #. Repeats again for fully broken R, although the same die could have been used on all the coins." You were right on from the begining, about the die could of been used on all the coins. You are a great help to others and myself, please bear with me as I am a pretty new VAMMER, thanks, MIKE... |
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No problem Mike, I've been there and done that. I'm just starting to feel comfortable with the lowly cent thanks to all the great advice on this forum. Hang in there.
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Thanks Mike for your feedback die state is rather confusing as is this coin with the reverse die a very tricky one as the VAM 45 has a B2ad die match that has the "r" in trust slightly broken and as you can see the "r" on this coin is a solid "r" that's why I said its a B2aj so am I wrong to think that its a B2aj and not a B2ad as the reverse die  regards Harry |
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Oh and P.S. don't forget that the VAM 14 also has a broken "B" and not a broken "R" in trust also while I was looking at the VAM 45 I found another broken "B" VAM for another coin its a VAM 44 Edited by nuggethill
11/18/2008 6:53 pm
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