1652 Pine Tree Shilling Real Or Fake

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Adam cohen New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 3:41 pm I was metal detecting and found the 1652 pine tree shilling it is not magnetic and weighs 5.2 grams I found it with used musket shell casings about a foot Underground * Edited by Staff to crop and/or rotate images and delete duplicates. Please crop and correctly orient images before uploading. This can be done with most built in software on phones and MS Paint on most PCs. You can also use the free image optimizer. * Report this Post to the Staff

westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 4:08 pm Quote: .....used musket shell casings about a foot Underground I'd like to see those used musket shell casings you found, too! Oh, by the way..... ..... to the Community! Edited by westernsky 07/17/2020 4:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
ironhorse Valued Member Canada 363 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 6:08 pm ....a foot underground...musket shell casings?... Good relic units can get a good signal at a foot, so my hats off to your machine, not all detectors are that good. It would be interesting to know where the find was made(state) and more interesting to see musket casings..both intrigue me I'd be more than thrilled to make a find such as yours Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1658 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 6:09 pm It has the rough grainy look of a cast copy. Can you post a picture of the edge? If it was found with shell casings that wouldn't mean much for the age, shell casings for guns weren't in use until the mid 1800's. Muskets were in use earlier but they didn't use shell casings, they were muzzleloaders. Report this Post to the Staff
Sir Derrin Valued Member United States 177 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 8:35 pm I would love to see the "musket" shell casing" as well... Where they made of flint? Report this Post to the Staff
ironhorse Valued Member Canada 363 Posts	Posted 07/17/2020 8:54 pm just looking around at a couple of other pine tree shillings in the web....I saw another example ( that was being used as an authentic example in a real/ fake comparison) the "real" one had the same similar die breaks from the top of the 1 to the 6 and the one trailing from the tail or the 2 towards the edge just sayin'...I think it might have a shot at being something great Report this Post to the Staff
westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 07/18/2020 1:53 pm Better pictures might help, too. Try laying the coin on a flat, dark colored table top surface and using that as your background. Your camera then might focus better on the coin and not on your fingers. Report this Post to the Staff
lcutler Pillar of the Community United States 1658 Posts	Posted 07/18/2020 2:05 pm It is or is a copy of a NOE 1 large planchet, the die break is on the later die states of this variety. Unfortunately NOE 1 is also the most copied variety. It is substantially overweight which would be very unusual on these. Hull and Sanderson kind of messed up when they contracted to mint the coins, they did not allow enough for waste when melting the silver. This seriously cut into there profits so they were very cautious not to make overweight coins. Original large planchet coins were virtually paper thin, so I would like to see the edge. Report this Post to the Staff
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