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1857 Flying Eagle

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 Posted 12/11/2008  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steelie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not notice this earlier when looking at the coin (I spent almost the entire time looking at the obverse), on the reverse there are 2 rather deep groves around the rim, one goes from about 10 to 12 o'clock and the other from 6 to 8 o'clock. Both of the are gradual on one end and abrupt on the other. Hard to see from these pics, it really shows when you view from and angle.Any thoughts?
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 Posted 12/11/2008  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I see that now...interesting!
I haven't seen this too often on FEs...it happened during the strike of your coin.
It's a rim Cud, and it appears that something happened to the reverse die where a sliver of die metal was broken off the edge.
Perhaps the reverse die hit the obverse at a slight angle--that might explain the groove and the Cud. Any other thoughts?
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 Posted 12/11/2008  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin you have there. I would try submitting it how it to PCGS/NGC. If it doesn't get slabbed by either one then you can try submitting it to NGC'S NCS coin conservation service. Though some people don't like the results after NCS is done. This thread might be of some interest for you (Private message me for the link)
I think it came out nice. Good luck.
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Where is the PM link?.....
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Click on my screen name and under "My Contact Info" click send an E-mail.
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 Posted 12/12/2008  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steelie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Amazon!

So what does everyone think that this rim Cud will do to the grade/value of this coin? I was contemplating getting this slabbed, is this Cud going to knock the grade down so far that it is not worth it?

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 Posted 12/15/2008  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might affect the grade, it might not. I never sent a coin in for grading so I can't say. Maybe someone else can help you?
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 Posted 12/15/2008  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personally doubt that minor rim Cud would affect grading since it was as struck. And yours is a nicer strike than many FEs.
Btw, I have an 1857 with a noticeable planchet defect slabbed by NGC as AU55, where I doubt this defect affected grade.
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 Posted 12/24/2008  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blue Diamond Gold Exchange to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not believe that slight rim anomaly will adversely affect the grade.
Again, very nice coin.
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