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Edited by KeepTheChange 09/04/2020 9:44 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like a nice DDR. Can easily see the split serifs. Nice discovery piece!
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awesome,ill be sending this to wexler considering he has 0 listings for 1974s
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I was looking at PCGS for a doubled die, no listings for the FS-#s. But I see a lot of Machine Doubling on most of the examples there. Some strong, some mild and some affecting slightly. So probably because of the size of the coins, the MD becomes eaiser to see. So mark it and keep it. But I'd check around with other sites. The examples on V.V are proof coins. Is yours a proof coin? https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...-silver/7433Note on all three examples, they show Machine Doubling on them. #1 and #3 have the same affect on the DOLLAR as your coin. (Click on them and enlarge them and there is another view that enlarges them to huge.)
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This definitely does not look like MD coop. I see a real DDR here. Also I can tell that this is a business strike coin.
Edited by josephm99 09/04/2020 10:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Take a look at the examples I posted on the PCGS site. It looks just like that on 2 out of three on that link I posted.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pretty sure the 74's and 73's are the ones with Master die doubling.
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Pillar of the Community
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Except that this is not a proof coin but a business strike. Maybe they used proof reverse dies by mistake?
EDIT: Perhaps it could be the master die doubling that other people have mentioned already? VV and Wexler do not show any pictures of what this doubling might look like. Perhaps that is what is showing on the PCGS links.
Edited by josephm99 09/04/2020 10:48 pm
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Master die doubling is usually documented. Especially if it is this blatently obvious. I strongly disagree with MD. I'm sending it in and will keep everyone updated
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Bedrock of the Community
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But master dies affects all of the coins. (Proof or business strikes the same) The defect is sent on down the line: 
Edited by coop 09/06/2020 10:05 pm
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Quote: I'm sending it in and will keep everyone updated Excellent Quote: Master die doubling is usually documented. Especially if it is this blatently obvious. Here's two DDO's for 1974 D's, the second entries reverse die markers are of particular interest. Some food for thought, Both these entries have very light spreads on IGWT but are DDO's because they have something else as well( tripling/Obvious Doubling on the date). http://varietyvista.com/13%20Eisenh...4SDDO001.htmhttp://varietyvista.com/13%20Eisenh...4SDDO002.htmThey are of course proofs however. Ike's are not particularly well documented. The most dedicated site I know is The Ike Group and I really don't like they lay out of that site.
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Does any of the doubling on the obverse or reverse of your dollar match the descriptions in the CONECA Master Listings for the MD (Master Die) or the SD (Series Doubling), can't tell by your photos.
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Is the doubling on the obverse motto "IGWT" not common on the Ike dollars? I ask because I have a type 1 1976 with the same spread in the motto and all the ones for 1971 including 1978 and others on PCGS does too from what I can see, I just assumed it was part of the design. Edit: due to year mix up
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Edited by JohnWayne007 09/07/2020 2:31 pm
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Quote: I ask because I have a type 1 1970 S with the same spread in the motto You have a 1970 Ike dollar?
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Quote:You have a 1970 Ike dollar? Oh my, no I dont as they dont exist, I got my dates mixed up  , I meant to say I have a 1976 Ike dollar and the years I was looking at on PCGS was 1971 to 1978 and I thought all Ike dollars had the doubling in the motto and it was common. I posted that comment in a hurry when I was on my phone and it auto corrected to 1970 S as I was talking about a 1970 S proof DDO previously on another post, my mistake and apologies.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024)
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Quote: Oh my, no I dont as they dont exist On the contrary there is a prototype 1970, but I think it is one of a kind. I don't think the 76's have the same issue, almost positive they don't on the reverse. I don't think a 74 peg leg would have it on the obverse either.
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