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Died Weld Repairs And Patches

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can anyone here tell me. if there is some where I can find information. see the Royal Canadian Mint will repair and patch striking dies from time to time. I have just found my second American coin. that has been struck by a patched welded die. I am just wondering does anyone record these patches. I can show you patches on Canadian proof likes.
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That sounds interesting and is new to me. Can you please add a pic or two of the US coin struck from a patched die?
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of the US coin.



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here is one of the coins. the other coin the weld runs from jefersons hair bow to his front neckle line. the weld Style is slightly different. but its a weld. I put this coin back in the pail. when I come across it again I will post a picture of it thank you
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Can we please see the whole coin, both sides?
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Full coin pics, please. Welding dies is new to me.
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Looks like damage to me.
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Can't be a welded die. If the die was welded, that area would be raised on the die, the result would be an incuse area on the fields. This shows a raised area like a mark into the the die, leaving a raised area on the field of the coin. Also no one could weld that small. So it maybe a die gouge like an enhancement mark on the die, or die damage.
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coop tell you what, wait until I get my stacking unit running smooth. I will take you a picture that shows this weld. so for now thank you all have a great one before I leave heres one for you guys to look at. its the eyeless Jefferson. have a great one
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one more thank you all
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Another reason why they wouldn't weld a die, it would destroy the heat treated hardening and tempering of the die. Sure you could re-harden and temper the die, but the weld material, being different from the die body, would not react the same way and would almost certainly fail again almost immediately.
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In addition to other reasons, I think it would be more cost-effective to just make a new die than try to repair a broken one, especially for modern mass-produced coins like Jefferson nickels.
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I like this one.
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even if they repaired a die with a weld, all of the identifiable points would be ground off, and polished.. there would be no noticeable remnants of the repair..
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you will see.
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Doesn't seem logical. I agree with others it seems foolish for the Mint to make such "repairs". There must be another answer to these images.
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