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1857 Flying Eagle - Grade Opinions?

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Just got this one in the mail, the sellers pictures were very poor and I had a few ebay bucks to bring the price down lower.

What do you grade this? The marks in the obverse field (started between T & E in STATES) are small planchet laminations or flaws, not scratches. The reverse was weakly struck on the bottom (or struck through).

I have found problem free high grade examples with good planchets are difficult to come by.

Thanks!


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 Posted 10/09/2020  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not the best with these, but I'll take a stab. Sans the weak strike, I'm not seeing much in the way of wear, AU-58
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Agree with AU-58.
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Certainly no less than AU-58. Pancake reverse, but a lovely specimen overall.
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Plus a weak strike or struck thru on "United States"? AU-58 Nice coin.
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Weak as can be but could see it in a lower ms holder personally.
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 Posted 10/10/2020  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hunter611 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still developing grader skills. Nice coin and agree with AU 58.
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AU or UNC details. it appears the original fields are flat. for a coin of this higher grade it should have more of a lustrous look to it. could be the lighting or photos but just calling what I see. the mottled coloring is also an indicator. I think its UNC
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I've had two Flying Eagles graded AU-58 by NGC and the wear on this coin looks about the same as those two.
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AU-58 but surface originality is questionable.
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Why is this AU-58? The bottom half of the letter in UNITED STATES are gone.
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I like it weak strike/strike through and all, I'm at MS61 no wear.
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Dont confuse strike quality or a filled die with wear.

Im thinking this was a Grease Filled Die (as opposed to a weak strike) as the dentils are sharp and pronounced in the areas where weakness is seen. I had this pegged as a high AU, but it could go MS. The coin color looks normal in hand for the Copper-Nickel series.
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ok...what is a "pancake" reverse?
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Pancake means "flat strike".
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