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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Here I have a hammered coin, it is very dark and quite thin I think it is silver, it does leave a mark and the edge comes out as shiny silver when rubbing the edge on paper. It has some RR counter stamped on it which makes me think it is some kind of reproduction or whatnot? Any idea what this could be? Added info: It weighs 2 grams and is ca 21mm in diameter, also it has a slight wobble to it it is ca 1mm or slightly less than 1mm thick scans:   more photos    Edited by Cointosser77
10/10/2020 3:12 pm
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 United States
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@ct77, the soft, grainy detail make me think it is a repro also, but I'm going to move this over to the medieval section of CCF so that we can get some more eyes on it. In the meanwhile, can you please add the weight to this thread? Thx.
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
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Thanks Spence, I have added more info and more photos now
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Bumping this up, but also guessing this is a half groat (dimensions are a match) of Henry IV (legends also look like a match or nearly so). https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces166601.html A real UK expert (I am certainly not) should be able to nail this. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Looking at the surface texture and indistinct detail,
I think it is a repro, but I have to admit:
I am a learner on this one as well.
Very even thickness of the flan can give rise to questionable authenticity.
I do know that there are a few fakes of English hammered out there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The soft outlines of the lettering and bust make it look cast. Not as sharply outlined as real ones. Maybe it's really bad corrosion or encrustation, but it looks awfully uniform.
The lettering is so mushy and dark I can't read it. The inner circle on the reverse should read CIVITAS LONDON.
Henry IV half groats are very rare, so probably a repro. Edward III are much more common and look similar.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/17/2020 7:31 pm
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Australia
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The two incuse "R"s stamped into it clearly mark it as a reproduction. Quote:
The inner circle on the reverse should read CIVITAS LONDON. The mint-name appears to be VILLA CALIS - Calais mint. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/19/2020 3:32 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:
Here's a real Henry VI Calais half groat that looks remarkably similar, That one is counterstamped RL or possibly RRL. The R looks to be identical to this one. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I guess the photos in the link to this second "coin" make that counterstamp easier to see. For the life of me, I could not see it on the OP's coin, but now realize it is at 1:00 to 2:00
Yep. Repro. The mismatch of the beaded inner circle around 6:00-7:00 is the same on both.
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Pillar of the Community
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/21/2020 1:08 pm
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