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Edward I, II Or III Silver Penny - Any Clues As To Which?

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 Posted 10/13/2020  1:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CAM68 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi -- many years ago I acquired a humdrum 14th century silver 1d coin, not in very good condition unfortunately. I can identify it as having come from the Canterbury mint, but that's about it, the obverse being in a worse state than the reverse.

Pics attached - while I don't hold out hope for any miracles, any observations would be gratefully received.

MAR
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 Posted 10/14/2020  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a website which explains how to tell them apart. I forget now where it is, as it was over a year ago, but it helped me narrow one down. It is possible that some essential details are worn off, but it will help. I warn you that you may get eyestrain.

There used to be an expert here who could figure them out, but I have no idea if she/ he is still on the forum.
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Many thanks for the reply, Oriole. If you happen to recall the details of the website, Id' certainly be interested.

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@CAM68, I think that this was the site. It gives details of all the types, sub-types, and the mints which issued.

https://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwar...ies%20P1.htm


Good luck, and tell us what you think it is.
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Well, that is very helpful - thank you very much! I shall dig out my magnifying glass and get started :-)
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OK, so I have been able to establish certain facts about the legend and design which should aid classification:

1. The legend reads "EDWA R ANGL DNS HYB"
2. The crown does not break the circle on the left of the obverse
3. The mint is CANTOR (Canterbury)
4. The obverse cross is not formed of wedges

From the 15 type-groups, this narrows it down to Group 10 (Secondary Phase). While I am not sure which of the sub-types it is, this does enable me to identify it as having been minted between 1305 and 1310, ie Edward II.

Many thanks to Oriole for referring me to the website with all the data on it.
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@CAM68, you are very welcome. But the bigger thanks go to the person who did the website.

I now seem to recall the the identification of the classes with specific years was a the result of analyzing a lot of archaeological data.
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Here is a guide to all inscriptions on English hammered coins. Maybe this will help with the correct identification:

http://www.psdetecting.com/Inscript...dwardII.html
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