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Png Cautions: Obama "Coins" Not Rare Investments

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Png-Cautions:-Obama-(Fallbrook, California) - Officials of the Professional Numismatists Guild (PNG), a non-profit organization composed of the nation's top rare coin dealers, are advising consumers that recently offered "coins" honoring President-elect Barack Obama should be considered only as souvenirs and not be viewed as rare coins or an investment.

"All of the items we've seen offered so far on television and online are merely political mementos that certainly may be enjoyable as a keepsake, but typically will have little or no re-sale value later in the mainstream numismatic market. Privately-produced items are not legal tender U.S. coins. In cases where a marketer has altered an actual U.S. coin after it left the Mint, such as putting a sticker with Obama's picture on it, knowledgeable collectors usually consider that to be merely defacing the coin," said Gary Adkins of Edina, Minnesota, PNG President.

"Some of the so-called 'Obama coins' are layered or plated with a microscopically-thin layer of gold with the implication that they are potentially valuable bullion items. However, there usually is precious little precious metal value to plated pieces. Beware of bogus bargains," Adkins cautioned.

In the PNG's consumer protection pamphlet, "What You Should Know Before You Buy Rare Coins," the section on modern coins advises: "If you like the subject theme represented by these coins, admire the beauty of the design or would like to own them as a souvenir or to show support for their particular cause, by all means buy them. But if your goal is capital appreciation or making a profit, you're better off avoiding this type of material."

Helpful consumer education tips and an online directory of PNG member-dealers are available at www.PNGdealers.com. The PNG was established in 1953, and its members must adhere to a strict Code of Ethics in the buying and selling of numismatic merchandise.

For a copy of the informative pamphlet, "What You Should Know Before You Buy Rare Coins," send $1 to cover postage costs to: Robert Brueggeman, PNG Executive Director, 3950 Concordia Lane, Fallbrook, CA 92028. Phone: (760) 728-1300. E-mail: info@PNGdealers.com. Online: www.PNGdealers.com.
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"If you like the subject theme represented by these coins, admire the beauty of the design or would like to own them as a souvenir or to show support for their particular cause, by all means buy them.

That's it. Expect these companies selling these to make a profit, not you. IMO, these are no different than those painted quarters. Junk.
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 Posted 12/01/2008  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add haidee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
at least we have these kinds of advisories
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Yeah it's nice, Donn sends me all the releases as soon as they're available.
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at least we have these kinds of advisories

I agree. Most beginners just don't know what coins are good investments. Most "seasoned" collectors or dealers you'd think would know better. Hopefully!
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I was very glad to see that the PNG put out this warning.
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Oh Darn

I was going to invest in 100 of these to secure my retirement


If you believe this I have stock for sale in two bridges I am building one is between Key West and Havana the other between Sydney and Auckland.

the bridge will be coated with a a fine layer of Gold paint
very collectible
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Don't encourage him.
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Bobby.......don't forget.......they give you a genuine "Certificate of Authenticity".

It's amazing, when I had my retail storefront, how many people came in with this type of stuff to sell and I had to tell them the facts. I could always read their minds when then left: (i.e. "This guy ain't gonna cheat me. I know they are worth lots more than he said)."

Sure makes me sick when these companies ruin a good possible coin collector in marketing junk to them. But, fast buck Charlies will always be around in the collector/investment market. Sort of sad.

Oh! No offense to anyone named Charlie on here.
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Isn't the PNG warning sort of "preaching to the choir"?

Most who buy this stuff are not numismatists or even somewhat educated collectors. I see this sort of advertising in our Sunday paper. What I don't see is a PNG ad saying this is over-priced junk and the buyer should be aware of what exactly they are buying.

Just a thought.
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I have noticed the "Barack Obama Inaugural Dollar" banner ad on this website.

Anyone buying? It is "Layered in Genuine 24 Karat Gold"


I just hope it does not become a "Featured Auction", or the much anticipated "Coin of the week" Unless it is April 1st!



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I have noticed the "Barack Obama Inaugural Dollar" banner ad on this website.


LOL, I marked it to be banned about 30 minutes ago, it takes an hour or 2 sometimes to kick it off though.
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If you gave me one, I'd spend it quick ....LOL
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<< Edited by Staff: This topic is about the coin, it's not for airing your views on Obama. >>
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