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One Of My Strangest Ebay Purchases

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I got a lot with 50 Mexican 2 Centavo coins. Anyone that knows Mexican coins knows these never had high mintages. To find 50 at one time is amazing. The only catch is that they are "dateless". Bahhh. Dateless just means that the seller did not have an imagination! At least half have dates if you hold em up to the light and squint at the right angle. The other half? Well, I guess they are dateless no matter how much imagination I use. Who knew that the 2 Centavo piece lived such a hard life? So what is the grade below poor?
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The grade below poor? I have never seen a suggestion in the books. Which leaves us free to use our imagination. What about "Destitute"?

Congratulations on an unusual find
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Lowest grade is considered to be Poor-1. But nobody ever talks about Zero. How about Abysmal-0?
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Below Poor is getting into the CR range.. see this post for the scale: http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...ly_ID=272443

[Disclaimer: Although I have many coins that qualify for this grade, it isn't on the officially recognized grading scale ]
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I always thought that coins below poor were generally difficult to identify as being coins at all.
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If you can identify it and it has no serious damage, it is a poor 1. A dealer that used to have a shop in my town had an 1878 cc dollar where you could squint and see the date and outline of liberty and on the back see the tops of the CC and the outline of the eagle in a PCGS slab graded poor 1. It was a great coin, probably spent 20 years in someones pocket as a good luck piece. No damage, just wear.
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I do like the CR scale in the post linked, lots of fun. However, the CR scale seems to be designed for damaged/altered coins. Mine has nothing but honest wear. Below Poor 1 (P) should be About Poor .5 (AP), I guess that means that slightly better than poor would be Very Poor 1.5 (VP), and then Extra Poor 1.75 (XP).
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I found this on the web, it doesn't list Poor as a Grade.

Good (G) - Heavily worn. Design and legend visible but faint in spots.

On some coins, full rims are not required for this grade. You must be able to read the date and mint mark.

Almost Good (AG) - Outlined design. Parts of date and legend worn smooth.

This is a used up coin. You should be able to make out the date (possibly with some effort). Often, only parts of the last two digits will be visible.

Fair (Fair) - You can identify the coin as to its type.

There may be holes, it might be bent, or it might just have a LOT of honest wear. You may or may not see the date depending on the type and the nature of the wear. Fair coins are also sometimes called "filler" coins. That is because you can buy them very cheaply to fill the holes in your collection. Otherwise, you might never be able to afford the coin. Many people collect fair condition coins, especially the rarer dates and types. Dateless Buffalo nickels, for example, are still worth about a dime. Some of the earlier type coins may be worth $50 or more in fair condition.

Basal State (Basal) - You can identify the lump of metal as being a coin.

Basil state coins have extraordinarily low value. A basil state large cent, for example, might sell for a nickel.

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I also found this more traditional one.

Poor-1 or P-1 (Poor) - The type is barely discernable, but little else, due to the coin being badly damaged or worn smooth.

Fair-2 or FR-2 (Fair) - Type and date are barely discernable, but otherwise the coin is damaged or extremely worn.

AG-3 (About Good) - Type and date are discernable, although some spots may be worn out. Some lettering should be apparent, if not necessarily readable.

G-4 (Good) - Major devices and features are evident as outlines. although the coin overall is heavily worn.

G-6 (Good-plus) - Coin has a full rim plus major devices and features are clearly outlined. Heavy wear.
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