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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Numismat 12/03/2008 01:23 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I haven't seen an AUS penny like that...I'll need to check mine. A very dramatic overdate!  That one is really clear, excellent!
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Thanks again Kurt! Out of maybe 8 or 9 Aussie pennies dated 1928 that I have, 3 show at least one letter or number with a missing segment. This one was especially prolific. Let me know if you find one in your collection with the "blob" on the obverse. That's the part I am most interested about.
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Interesting! I'll take a close look at both. 
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United States
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Comparing your coin to the one you linked to, I'd agree those must be the same die--that die gouge is way too similar. There are other matches in the devices too. Have you decided whether the broken type is a filled die? One way to tell might be if you see a progression, ie the letters start more complete and disappear over time, which would point to a filled die. The other option--a broken hub or punches wouldn't show the same progression. Of course, since the date was punched independently, yet shows a similar problem, my guess would be a dirty die.
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That progression is noticeable in this date. Some pieces are better struck with fewer breaks, but as you start looking at pieces from a more worn die, the breaks and extra features increase in number and scope. It's curious that this particular year is so much more prone to these errors than others. Did the die cleaners get fired that year or something?
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Formerly nancyc
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Kurt, Why do you say the date was punched independently? I think you've got the 2 pictured coins mixed up.  The overdate is a GB coin, not the 1928 Aussie penny. 
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Nancy, yep.  I could easily be totally wrong, but I thought on the Australia KGV Penny, the date was punched separately into the die, hence the varieties with different spreads and angles to the date.  Or by 1928 was the date already part of the reverse hub at this point? To be honest, I'm not even sure the 1933/2 Pennies are simply repunched digits, or multiple hubbings. Does anyone have this information? Checking further on this variety, I read here that: Quote: The letter/number breaks may have been caused by die filling but because they are so common, it is more likely that they were caused by damaged working punches. Some slight support for this conjecture is lent by the observation that the lettering on both sides of the coin is heavily fishtailed, suggesting die spread in the punch and/or master tools. More significantly, the faults are observed in transverse features only. If die filling were the cause then one would expect to see it on both transverse and radial features. So I stand corrected on my guess. 
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