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Is It Easy To Fake A 1934 A $20 Bill? (With Requested Pics)

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Just curious.....





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I think it would be hard to counterfeit any US currency because of the paper and ink combination. If you can't feel the paper, suspend the note vertically and try touching it with a magnet. If the note moves towards the magnet, then the note is genuine.

Why do you ask? Do you have one?
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I don't have it....yet. A woman came in to pay for a phone card, whipped it out (my eyes jumped out of their sockets when I saw it), she just handed it over like nothing and I took it, put a note on it for the boss to save it until Friday. The green in the serial number is the correct color, but the ink on the borders was a little darker than I'd think is acceptable.
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hmm.... I don't understand the ink on the borders is a little darker part. However, since you handled it and the paper quality didn't raise any alarms, I think it would be real.

However, I can tell you that all my old US notes from about the 60's back have really dark (and a lot of) ink. It seems like the BEP is skimping on ink these days...

anyways, would you mind posting a pic?
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When I get it, I will gladly post a pic in this thread. My 1934 A $10 has darker ink than my 1934 D. It definitely wasn't manila-colored, like another fake $20 which tried to be passed off to me. Also, I couldn't figure if anyone would take the time to copy a 74-year-old note style.
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Whoa! The vingette on the back is different!

But it looks real. The print quality on Jackson's coat, even though it's a small pic, shows and the serial number's color looks authentic.

Nice note! I wish I could have gotten such a note as payment...
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Counterfiet banknotes are not just copies. They are made professionaly with printing equiptments etc. There are bad fakes and good ones. And there are fakes banknotes that were printed during those era. Just feel the banknote with your fingers and you will feel the prints. If you have black light you will see the watermarked on the paper and some colored fibers and extra prints, only seen with black light. I'm not sure if it also applies to old banknotes.
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hm... manila's right. Would you happen to have a UV lamp or "blacklight"? Put the note under and if it glows brightly (compare with a sheet of regular paper) then you have a fake. If doesn't shine, then it's real.
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Do keep in mind that to test for counterfeits that several of these tests are needed to be conducted. Unfortunately there is no sure fire way. If the counterfeiters crack one code and that's all you test for....

That's why those expensive counterfeit pens they want me to use at work don't work and I am required to use The Force and just feel it
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I used to work in a bank in asia and the US Dollars is the most common fake banknote and the easiest to fake.
Yes feeling is the best way. Some counterfeits use the 1 dollar note and bleach them and print over a 100 dollar.
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Whoa! The vingette on the back is different!


That worries me a little, heh.

No black light, but I'll take it to the FUN show this weekend and see others' opinions.
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